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LibreELEC 10.0 BETA 3 is released! bringing Kodi (Matrix) v19.1 to LibreELEC users.
Changes from LibreELEC 10.0 BETA 2 are listed here. As discussed in the recent Upcoming Changes blog post it, the 10.0 release is a disruptive and limited hardware release. If you have not read the blog post – please do – because we are not releasing images for all hardware. In summary: this is a stable release for Generic (x86_64 PCs). Stable-Beta for Allwinner and Rockchip. Stable “Alpha” for Raspberry Pi 4 as the code is still very new. RPi 2/3 are still in development targetting an LE10.2 release. RPi 0/1 are discontinued. All others hardware is still in development and not in a state for formal releases.** DO NOT UPGRADE! **
Yes, we mean that. The team are super keen for you to run the latest LibreELEC release but we recommend you clean install not upgrade an existing installation – unless you are upgrading from a recent nightly image, i.e. you are already using Kodi 19.
The two simple (but complex) reasons for this advice are:
a) Python3 changes in Kodi v19 mean 99.99% of add-ons stop working. Most official Kodi add-ons now have Matrix compatible versions in the Kodi repo, but the transtion to them is not always smooth. Incompatible Python2 add-ons are disabled automatically on upgrade and users need to find/update add-ons to Python3 versions before re-enabling them. Banned/piracy add-ons are heavily impacted by the Python3 change, and while we don’t care about them breaking, we do care about the abuse that’s often hurled at staff when we refuse sympathy or support to that subset of users.
b) Kernel changes for RPi4 users combined with no release for RPi2/3 users and discontinued support for RPi0/1 users means signifant changes in the user experience (Raspberry Pi users are a combined 80% of our active installed base). We are pretty confident RPi4 users will like the update since it brings HBR audio and initial HDR video support, but it’s still a big change. Generic (where there is a lower level of change) and Allwinner/Rockchip (which already run on modern kernels) are less impacted.
SPARE CARDS AND BACKUPS
Using a spare SD card or USB stick to clean install onto makes “rolling back” in the event of problems simple. If you will reuse the same boot media, make a backup first and move it off-box so you can clean install an earlier release then restore from the backup. Kodi does not support in-place downgrades and it ever worked for you in the past it was luck not design (and Python3 guarantees problems this time). Your failure to make a backup is not our problem!
So unless you are already running an image with Kodi 19 inside, a clean install is preferred. We apologise for the inconvenience but we expect a much higher than normal support effort with in-place upgrades so it’s sensible advice.
CHANGES
You can read the official Team Kodi release announcement for Matrix/v19.0 here and (again) the recent Upcoming Changes blog post for more info on Kodi changes and the transition to GBM/V4L2. You probably (and hopefully) won’t notice, but every package that goes into the LibreELEC OS has been updated to a latest or recent release. It’s been two years since Kodi 18 was released so the changeset is too large to list. GitHub has the full history.
SUPPORT
Project staff are available in the forum to answer questions and provide advice. Please remember this is a beta. We are expecting some minor bugs/issues to be found and there will probably be a BETA2 release before we reach 10.0. If you have a problem, technical issues are best accompanied by system and Kodi debug logs – help us to help you.
Enjoy! 🙂
LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0 BETA3
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Updated from Beta 2 to Beta 3, all is well. Everything that was working before is still working. My use case is pretty simple, just streaming from my NAS , X264, X265, MP4, 2k and 4k, all SDR. Thanks!
Edit: Just upgraded my old HP300-230 HTPC (it looks like a Tupperware bowl) to Beta 3 and it is working well also.
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Thanks for the good work guys.
Can't wait for the end of the betas
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Tried the 10.0 Beta 3 on Raspberry Pi 4, using a fresh installation as recommended in the release notes. Looks good at first sight, but any video will come out garbled. I can basically see the decoder tiles. I understand that RPI4 support is considered alpha, but is it expected that video playback is completely broken or am I just missing a setting, a firmware update, anything else to fix video playback?
In case you are wondering, the hardware is fine, it works nicely with 9.2.x.
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or am I just missing a setting, a firmware update, anything else to fix video playback?
I didn't hear any problems during internal testing, and I also didn't see any impossible hiccups. So your video files must be special.
Open a thread in the appropriate forum section with all possible details, logs, et cetera.
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Looks and feels the same as 10b2. Was hopping that the muffled and crackling sound using DRM PRIME HW acceleration would be fixed but no: every video with greater than 1080p res is showing this problem. Using a RPI4 4GB BCM2711 (analog sound output).
Waiting to see if the random 10b2 GUI lag will happen again.
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Well, it really happens with all the files I tried and I tried a few different formats. Same with any Video add-ons I tried (Vimeo, for example). What would be the appropriate forum, "General Support" ?
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Looks and feels the same as 10b2. Was hopping that the muffled and crackling sound using DRM PRIME HW acceleration would be fixed but no: every video with greater than 1080p res is showing this problem. Using a RPI4 4GB BCM2711 (analog sound output).
Waiting to see if the random 10b2 GUI lag will happen again.
Anyway, good job guys. Keep up the good work.if you continue using analog audio output the sound will never improve.
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Tried the 10.0 Beta 3 on Raspberry Pi 4, using a fresh installation as recommended in the release notes. Looks good at first sight, but any video will come out garbled. I can basically see the decoder tiles. I understand that RPI4 support is considered alpha, but is it expected that video playback is completely broken or am I just missing a setting, a firmware update, anything else to fix video playback?
In case you are wondering, the hardware is fine, it works nicely with 9.2.x.
There is no deinterlacing present for HW decoding, so if you need deinterlacing you have to disable HW decoding.
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What would be the appropriate forum, "General Support" ?
There is no specific subforum for Raspberry Pi, so yes the General Support section is fine.
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if you continue using analog audio output the sound will never improve.
Still, it is supposed to work or the RPi4 would not come with analog output. it only happens on greater than 1080p videos and disabling HW acceleration makes it work. In previous versions had to disable deinterlacing to make it work.
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Still, it is supposed to work or the RPi4 would not come with analog output. it only happens on greater than 1080p videos and disabling HW acceleration makes it work. In previous versions had to disable deinterlacing to make it work.
These are all known limitations. See also this recent thread kodi-rpi 19.1-4 crackling audio on analog output (jack)
You can avoid the crackling by adding audio_pwm_mode=1 to config.txt - but that will result in lower quality audio output.
If you want decent analog audio output invest 10-30 bucks in an I2S DAC HAT.
so long,
Hias
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Why are there no more Cats in blogpost pictures ?
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Because we simply got fed up with them, they were a choice when we couldn't think of some other representative picture/subject. LibreELEC is not really a cat product. Maybe we should start a competition where users can make suggestions.
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Suggestion:
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Updated from Beta 2 to Beta 3 and youtube addon have problems, after clean installation all works fine.
Thanks...
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Updated from 9.95.2 to 9.95.3 and am running NextPVR version 8.2.3.1.
I could not play live TV because the EPG time was off by one hour. It was as though the system did not realize we are in DST. Interestingly enough, I logged in via SSH and the date command gave the correct time. Don't know why the EPG in Kodi is incorrect.
I downgraded from 9.95.3 to 9.95.2 and the problem went away.
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I could not play live TV because the EPG time was off by one hour. It was as though the system did not realize we are in DST.
Are you sure you have the correct timezone? It is working fine here with 8.2.3.1 and ssh shows EDT. Also problems are supposed to be reported in a new thread.
