[x86-64][CroqueMr Builds] Dolby Vision w/FEL, HDR10+, and 3D

  • Someone kindly help me with this

    Install dual boot, and try it by yourself. Don't forget, this is development. People are trying new things all the time here.

    egandt
    June 9, 2020 at 10:55 PM
  • Install dual boot, and try it by yourself. Don't forget, this is development. People are trying new things all the time here.

    egandt
    June 9, 2020 at 10:55 PM

    Bro but after all logs and LibreELEC screen appears and screen goes for blank forever

  • Any chance on LLDV?

    Very complicated. I already have a DV-to-HDR10 mode that works somewhat like LLDV, but outputs HDR10. Of course this mode is not a real DV output but it manages the more important DV adjustment.


    However, doing true LLDV would require significantly more processing power on the PC side. It would only be feasible on much more powerful hardware, or with some massive optimizations that I honestly have no idea how to pull off without impacting image quality.

  • Very complicated. I already have a DV-to-HDR10 mode that works somewhat like LLDV, but outputs HDR10. Of course this mode is not a real DV output but it manages the more important DV adjustment.


    However, doing true LLDV would require significantly more processing power on the PC side. It would only be feasible on much more powerful hardware, or with some massive optimizations that I honestly have no idea how to pull off without impacting image quality.

    Just wondering, would it be possible to add an option to convert SDR to Dolby Vision and HDR10 to Dolby Vision, similar to what CoreELEC offers?

    It would be great to have these as optional features so we can enable or disable them whenever we want, while keeping native playback as the default.

    Not sure how difficult this would be to implement, but I'd love to see it in a future build.

    Thanks again for all your hard work. We're really looking forward to the next release and can't wait to test it and see what's new! :)

  • Just wondering, would it be possible to add an option to convert SDR to Dolby Vision and HDR10 to Dolby Vision, similar to what CoreELEC offers?

    It would be great to have these as optional features so we can enable or disable them whenever we want, while keeping native playback as the default.

    Not sure how difficult this would be to implement, but I'd love to see it in a future build.

    Thanks again for all your hard work. We're really looking forward to the next release and can't wait to test it and see what's new! :)

    HDR to DV it is in place since a long time ago and it is better than any HDR10 to DV conversion performed by VS10 you have a small IA model that adjust and create L1 and L3 metadata

    And for SDR to DV for me it is useless it is just a SDR track wrap up in a DV container, I do not see any gain with this kind of conversion but maybe I am wrong.

  • And for SDR to DV for me it is useless it is just a SDR track wrap up in a DV container, I do not see any gain with this kind of conversion but maybe I am wrong.

    For what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree.

    In a world with infinite developers taking care of this, why not. In this world, where there's you and a couple of other people... better concentrate on stuff that makes sense.

  • Very complicated. I already have a DV-to-HDR10 mode that works somewhat like LLDV, but outputs HDR10. Of course this mode is not a real DV output but it manages the more important DV adjustment.


    However, doing true LLDV would require significantly more processing power on the PC side. It would only be feasible on much more powerful hardware, or with some massive optimizations that I honestly have no idea how to pull off without impacting image quality.

    Well you and Hades opened the box for Gaming and Workstation PCs now, so why not see where it goes?

    We might not have the super specific chips of the small boxes, but some of us have raw power 600W GPUs and high core 3D Cache CPUs.

    PC users are used to not being able to run the latest and heaviest graphic settings all the time, sometimes a hardware update needs to happen first, so as long as those heavy modes get declared correctly, I wouldn't see the issue with it.

    If it means my heavy weight PC can deliver an even better experience to my projector, then I'll gladly take it.

  • Well you and Hades opened the box for Gaming and Workstation PCs now, so why not see where it goes?

    We might not have the super specific chips of the small boxes, but some of us have raw power 600W GPUs and high core 3D Cache CPUs.

    PC users are used to not being able to run the latest and heaviest graphic settings all the time, sometimes a hardware update needs to happen first, so as long as those heavy modes get declared correctly, I wouldn't see the issue with it.

    If it means my heavy weight PC can deliver an even better experience to my projector, then I'll gladly take it.

    I understand your need but it's clearly not my priority in term of dev.

    I'd rather focus on offering a viable alternative to Amlogic based devices, delivering perfect Dolby Vision playback at a lower cost and/or much better responsiveness for a similar price.

    I wouldn't spend time implementing LLDV if it could only run on NVIDIA or dedicated GPUs. I just don't see the point compared to a $300 Amlogic box that already does LLDV. We'd end up with a much more expensive solution.

    If I ever implement LLDV, it'll only be if we can make it work on hardware priced similarly to Amlogic devices, and finding new optimization lever to manage to fit LLDV on small iGPU it's not my top priority. Maybe in the futur after my stable release.

  • If it means my heavy weight PC can deliver an even better experience to my projector

    By any objective measure, I doubt a SDR-->DV conversion would bring a better experience to your projector. In any case, CroqueMr has spoken, so any discussion about this is kinda useless anyway. :)

  • For what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree.

    In a world with infinite developers taking care of this, why not. In this world, where there's you and a couple of other people... better concentrate on stuff that makes sense.

    +2. When I first tried VS10 on Zidoo boxes and then Amlogic, I was impressed. The colors seemed punchier vs in original SDR, and PQ seemed better. But, felt it was mostly just changing the color profile, making it more saturated and leaning red, and half the time it looked off and unnatural. I've since been watching movies in their original grading, SDR or whichever HDR format.

    Believe DMDreview did analyses with VS10 processing using AM6B+ before and would be best to educate us :).

  • By any objective measure, I doubt a SDR-->DV conversion would bring a better experience to your projector. In any case, CroqueMr has spoken, so any discussion about this is kinda useless anyway. :)

    Yeah I don't know what discussion you're reading, but you're way out of line.