Thanks for your reply, unfortunately I believe I have the correct settings because I have copied the working settings from the tvheadend running on my wetek where the mux works scans and works fine, reconfigured for the kii pro and got other muxes working but not this one (I am sure there are others but I stuck on 1 to try to isolate the problem). Secondly I started with a clean configuration, configured just hotbird, deleted all default muxes, scanned another mux that has swiss channels which through NIT discovered the 11526H mux and it still fails
I try to bang my head on this problem later on today.