Intel true 10bits/HEVC/HDR support... ?

**smp** · October 12, 2021 at 5:02 PM

All Tiger Lake versions (including i3 and Celerons) have the same GPU and DO have support for AV1 HW decode. The difference is the # of EUs.

libreAU · October 13, 2021 at 12:50 AM

Looks like all the 11th gen nuc panther and tiger canyon models have irix xe integrated GPUs:

Intel® NUC Kits

Designed for businesses, students, educators, and DIYers, the collection of Intel® NUC Kits features customizable boards and chassis.

www.intel.com

An i3 would be plenty for a while it's mostly about the gpu.

A whie ago I was lucky enough to get some i5's on sale or pricing error that was honoured for ~AUD$300(US220), they are mega overkill but hey...I run them with the cheapest kingston 8gb sodimm and a $20(US17) 32GB intel optane nvme ssd (cheaper than a usb stick and lasts longer) for the OS.

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The only issue you might find is finding a supported 11-i3 nuc,i had a quick look through the list and most are discontinued 3 days after launch, as intel like to do

isamudaison · October 13, 2021 at 5:59 PM

Quote from smp

All Tiger Lake versions (including i3 and Celerons) have the same GPU and DO have support for AV1 HW decode. The difference is the # of EUs.

I'm not 100% convinced it's that simple.

* Intel's own ark claims the i3 has "Intel UHD graphics for Intel 11th generation" (see: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us…o-4-10-ghz.html )

* Whereas the ark for a core i5 has "Intel Iris Xe Graphics" (see: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us…ifications.html ).

*To complicate matters more, Intel's own marketing fluff sometimes makes no distinction (see: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww…rence-guide.pdf)

* But sometimes they DO differentiate ; notice the lack of the "iris xe" nomenclature for the i3/celeron entires (see: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us…r-lake-up3.html)

seems like a 'wait and see' scenario...

**smp** · October 13, 2021 at 7:21 PM

They use "UHD" naming instead of "Xe" but it is still a Gen12 GPU with half of EUs (48) disabled.

kelma · October 14, 2021 at 7:06 PM

Thank you all for the Information.
So it is "safe" to buy a BNUC11TNHI30002 unit?
Performance will be okay to play 4K HDR+ and and it will work with this build?

**smp** · October 14, 2021 at 7:35 PM

Quote from kelma

So it is "safe" to buy a BNUC11TNHI30002 unit?
Performance will be okay to play 4K HDR+ and and it will work with this build?

Yep. I'm thinking about buying this myself

kenmills · October 15, 2021 at 7:24 PM

Quote from smp

I compiled this LibreELEC Generic build:
- GBM/OpenGLES, X11 removed
- linux-next-20190510 kernel with HDR patchset rev.9
- Kodi 19 with VideoLayerBridgeDRMPRIME: set HDR metadata PR.
Anyone wanna try it? I tested it on my Asrock J4105 board and it works ok. However, I can't test the HDR functionality because I don't have a HDR capable display yet.
Note that some Kodi addons that use OpenGL will stop working and will have to be recompiled for OpenGLES.

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Hey mate! Your download link is broken. I'll test asap.

PANiCnz · October 15, 2021 at 11:34 PM

I assume still no hardware deinterlacing? Will the working being done on deinterlacing for the Pi help here?

**smp** · October 16, 2021 at 1:02 AM

The last thing I heard regarding deinterlacing was this. That was almost 2 years ago.

**smp** · October 18, 2021 at 12:25 AM

lrusak

I just noticed that a build from your current drmprime-2img-no-ffmpeg-bump branch can switch the TV into HDR mode even with DRM PRIME set to disabled.

However, this seem to work only with HEVC 24p videos.

HomerJau · October 20, 2021 at 8:06 AM

smp Hi, I’m wondering if you could please do a new build of your HDR LibreElec release including this fix for Atmos skipping that’s now available:

Atmos Audio Dropouts with UHD-BD

This Atmos issue has been plaguing many for literally years in Kodi.

THX

Garry

kelma · October 20, 2021 at 11:08 AM

Quote from smp

Yep. I'm thinking about buying this myself

Sorry for bothering again, but i am seeing differences between NUC11PABi3 and NUC11TNBi3, for example power consumtion (TDP) and display connectors.
http://https//en.wikipedia.…ng#Tiger_Lake-U
I'm about to buy a RNUC11PAHI30000 unit that will be based on the "older" NUC11PABi3 board (at least that is, what i think).
Is it okay to have "only" HDMI 2.0a and Thunderbolt 3 instead of HDMI 2.0b and THunderbolt 4 which is only available on NUC11TNBi3 based units.
Any suggestions?
Regards

**smp** · October 20, 2021 at 2:04 PM

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Any suggestions?

I'd go for BNUC11TNHI30002. 2 HDMI ports and probably cheaper too.

Also, I'm not sure what's the deal with HDMI 2.0a/2.0b. It's been confirmed that NUC11PA use an unknown DP->HDMI converter chip. It is possible that NUC11TN use native Tiger Lake HDMI controller.

**smp** · October 20, 2021 at 3:04 PM

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/intel-nuc/NUC11TN_TechProdSpec.pdf

One of the HDMI ports is native and the other one use PCON.

kelma · October 20, 2021 at 4:27 PM

Quote from smp

I'd go for BNUC11TNHI30002. 2 HDMI ports and probably cheaper too.

My favourite would be BNUC11TNKI30002 but there is NO BNUC11TN* model available at the moment here.

That's the only reason, why i switched to NUC11PA* model...

**Da Flex** · October 20, 2021 at 6:56 PM

kelma Please open a new thread for hardware suggestions. We want to avoid big mishmash threads.

To produce easy-to-read topics, hardware suggestions should be demanded on more specific threads from now on, like NUC XXX, Gemini Lake, Tiger Lake etc. So I close this beloved thread for good reasons.

Thanks for your understanding!