Nightly Builds

    ok i checked out another nightly for my rpi4 LibreELEC-RPi4.aarch64-13.0-nightly-20250610-a34f2d0.img.gz and put it in my .update folder. After the update that i still have the bug. Before i have never issues to update mit pi this way. Maybe bug came back again?

    chewitt i must agree you i had insufficient space left so update was broken and stay on old version. i had to check version so nevertheless - my fault but thank you for your answers and help.

    Did you notice that several builds are picking up the same commit hash? Is it normal? Few examples:

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    LibreELEC-Generic.x86_64-13.0-nightly-20250626-c1e526c.img.gz (sha256)	2025-06-26 17:08	279.7M
LibreELEC-Generic.x86_64-13.0-nightly-20250627-c1e526c.img.gz (sha256)	2025-06-27 09:57	279.7M
LibreELEC-Generic.x86_64-13.0-nightly-20250628-c1e526c.img.gz (sha256)	2025-06-28 07:18	279.7M
LibreELEC-Generic.x86_64-13.0-nightly-20250628-e7d7252.img.gz (sha256)	2025-06-28 23:25	279.7M
LibreELEC-Generic.x86_64-13.0-nightly-20250630-fa3ad4b.img.gz (sha256)	2025-06-30 16:49	279.7M
LibreELEC-Generic.x86_64-13.0-nightly-20250701-fa3ad4b.img.gz (sha256)	2025-07-01 15:58	279.7M

    Hey Devs!

    It me again :)

    Trying to error check a new system that will not boot libreelec nightly.

    Asus z890, intel ultra 7 265k, 64gb memory. (Yes i know its wayyyyy overkill hehe)

    Tried latest legacy nightly and it stalls on starting xorg/kodi (ive tried my rtx3070 that works in my z590 system and my new rtx5070 plus ive tried an old gtx1080) also tested to put the 5070 in my old system but that fails because even though latest nightly has the latest nvidia drivers (do you unflag newer nvidia cards when building your images?

    All with the same result.

    Is there a debug version that do not auto reboot and generates log files on the usb stick that i can use to see whats going on?

    Best regards.

    Quote from MatteN

    Why the Legacy build?

    Try the Generic, you should be able to run that processor fine without a graphics card.

    Ive tried intel graphics before and the quality is not that good compared to nvidia

    because it wont start xorg i suspect might be something to do with the 890 chipset/pcie drivers etc, it wont even start with old nvidia cards

    Regards

    Quote from palle_c

    Tried latest legacy nightly and it stalls on starting xorg/kodi (ive tried my rtx3070 that works in my z590 system and my new rtx5070 plus ive tried an old gtx1080) also tested to put the 5070 in my old system but that fails because even though latest nightly has the latest nvidia drivers (do you unflag newer nvidia cards when building your images?

    Nvidia drivers are quite a mess.

    The current driver comes with two flavors of kernel modules, the "classic" one which supports a wide range of video cards up to the RTX4000 series, and the new "open" one which supports only very recent cards (IIRC starting with the RTX2000 series or so).

    We can't easily include both modules so we decided to stick to the "classic" kernel module as it supports way more cards - but doesn't support the RTX5000 series (or newer ones in the future).

    tl;dr: it's expected that it LE won't work with your RTX5070 and it's quite unlikely that'll change in the future.

    so long,

    Hias

    LE 12.2 and 13.0 have dropped the legacy nvidia driver, and the number of ‘newer’ cards in active use is tiny (we have been telling people not to use nvidia cards for a decade; people have listened) so we may simply drop nvidia support completely and have a more simple life. It will suck to do that, but as nvidia continues to either ignore standards or implement them with some catch that eliminates LE use, so be it.

    Ohh, i didnt know it came with 2 kernel options for cards and now i get it why you guys use the one that support more models :)

    Still it would boot on my 3070 and 1080, maybe there is something fishy with my new motherboard, i have another z890 pc as my main pc and im going to test the 3070 there.


    Quote from chewitt

    LE 12.2 and 13.0 have dropped the legacy nvidia driver, and the number of ‘newer’ cards in active use is tiny (we have been telling people not to use nvidia cards for a decade; people have listened) so we may simply drop nvidia support completely and have a more simple life. It will suck to do that, but as nvidia continues to either ignore standards or implement them with some catch that eliminates LE use, so be it.

    Sorry shewitt, you have been saying this for years heheh

    And i know thats the case but i still try to renew my components for kodi use aswell as for my main pc.

    Would be happy to get z890 chipset and my 3070 to work :)

    Edited once, last by palle_c: Merged a post created by palle_c into this post. (August 16, 2025 at 2:14 PM).

    First double-check that the rtx3070 still works with your old system using the latest nightly build - the nvidia driver was updated a few days ago so it'd be good to know if that has some play in it.

    To prevent LE from rebooting if kodi doesn't start run touch /storage/.config/safemode.disable - then you can simply ssh in and run pastekodi to create logs.

    so long,

    Hias

    Quote from HiassofT

    First double-check that the rtx3070 still works with your old system using the latest nightly build - the nvidia driver was updated a few days ago so it'd be good to know if that has some play in it.

    To prevent LE from rebooting if kodi doesn't start run touch /storage/.config/safemode.disable - then you can simply ssh in and run pastekodi to create logs.

    so long,

    Hias

    Everything works on my old z590 with rtx3070 with latest nightly build.

    Tested the 3070 in my main pc with z890 and same thing there, endless reboots after it tries to start xorg/kodi. tried all the way back to 0701 nightly, it dont even invoke safe mode.

    Funny thing, i tested the 20250225 nightly and wow, that one worked in my main pc and the other new z890 w 3070. thats the one that worked before the whole nvidia "blank" screen problem that you guys managed to sort out, its in this thread too.

    I dunno how to go from here, i cant even get any log from the endless reboots nightlys, it boot right up to "starting xorg" then blank screen and after about 10s it shows screen again with "stopping services" as it goes into reboot.

    Try adding systemd.unit=graphical.target to the end of the APPEND line in /flash/syslinux.cfg. This will prevent kodi from starting (and thus the reboot loop) and get you to a point where you can ssh in and create logs.

    so long,

    Hias

    Quote from HiassofT

    Try adding systemd.unit=graphical.target to the end of the APPEND line in /flash/syslinux.cfg. This will prevent kodi from starting (and thus the reboot loop) and get you to a point where you can ssh in and create logs.

    so long,

    Hias

    Hey

    Tried it now and got in to ssh.

    https://paste.libreelec.tv/cool-tuna.log

    there is no Xorg.0.log yet as it wasn't started yet.

    I looked in the boot log and cant see anything useful, what i can see in lspci it detects the card ok.

    It looks like you picked the generic image instead of the generic-legacy one.

    Running https://test.libreelec.tv/13.0/Generic/G…-25445eb.img.gz here I see a kernel build time of Sat Aug 16 00:55:40 UTC 2025 but your log shows Fri Aug 15 23:00:17 UTC 2025:

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    Aug 17 12:26:04.292047 LibreELEC kernel: Linux version 6.16.0 (ubuntu@a766510b163f) (x86_64-libreelec-linux-gnu-gcc-15.2.0 (GCC) 15.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.44) #1 SMP Fri Aug 15 23:00:17 UTC 2025

    Missing xorg.service start messages in journal are also a strong indication of wrong image - check /etc/os-release, it should look like this:

    so long,

    Hias

    Hey.


    Sorry sorry, yes it was a generic image. i took the wrong one from my disk :(

    Its fixed now, here are the logs from the right image. LibreELEC-Generic-legacy.x86_64-13.0-nightly-20250814-24480eb.img.gz

    LOGS:

    https://paste.libreelec.tv/teaching-viper.log

    https://paste.libreelec.tv/prime-aardvark.log

    I can see loading "xorg" and then blank screen with the systemd.unit=graphical.target added

    My info before was on "run" on usb stick=endless reboots.

    Problem Solved!

    Jesus mother f... I looked in the kodi log i uploaded and it didnt detect my nvidia card, after some investigation it seems that the Z890 chipset has a fault, in some circumstances you need to "disable" internal graphics in bios to have the "operating system" detect that there is a external graphics card in the motherboard.

    Jesus... i disabled internal grahpics and voila libreelec acts normal and functions .. woho.


    Sorry to have bothered you guys with this. Thank you! for all your clues

    Regards

    Edited once, last by palle_c: Merged a post created by palle_c into this post. (August 17, 2025 at 3:01 PM).