Can you shut down Raspberry Pi running LibreELEC?

Glorious1 · February 17, 2023 at 11:52 PM

Am I understanding correctly that, other than removing power, there is no shutting down RPi with LE? When I use the Kodi Power System Off, it just reboots.

So far I've had no problems from just turning off power, but I know with most computers that is a no-no.

Raspberry Pi 4b

LibreELEC 10.0.4

**Da Flex** · February 18, 2023 at 1:44 AM

Read here: Click!

Glorious1 · February 18, 2023 at 5:03 AM

Thanks, but I can't find anything in there that answers my question.

tokul · February 18, 2023 at 5:27 AM

Install raspberry pi tools from repo. Pi3B+ shutdowns, if Kodi power off is used in libreelec 10. You would have to remove power after that to get it reboot. Click link does talk about adding missing button to Pi.

"with most computers that is a no-no."

Modern operating systems have features in place to handle abrupt power loss. power off is not recommended, but options for doing it are there and in some cases it is the only recovery option that you have. With libreelec it is even easier cause OS is on readonly file system. Your biggest power off problem would be with attached NTFS storage devices.

**Da Flex** · February 18, 2023 at 6:10 PM

Quote from tokul

Install raspberry pi tools from repo. Pi3B+ shutdowns, if Kodi power off is used in libreelec 10.

This seems to be right. I'm using Raspberry Pi Tools for a long time, because I need it for the power button GPIO's. I usually shutdown by Kodi menu, and it still works since LE 10.

Glorious1 · February 18, 2023 at 10:14 PM

I already have Raspberry Pi tools installed.

I already have an on-off switch on the power line, and don't need a second one.

Are you saying Raspberry Pi tools is supposed to provide an orderly software shutdown? It doesn't.

Are you saying in order to have orderly shutdown, you need to install a hardware switch on those IO pins and make some file modifications?

**Da Flex** · February 19, 2023 at 3:45 AM

I don't know. Menu shutdown works for me, so I eventually just have different settings.

Please login by SSH, and open /storage/.kodi/userdata/guisettings.xml with the nano editor.

My power management section looks like this. Try the same settings:

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<setting id="powermanagement.displaysoff" default="true">0</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.shutdowntime" default="true">0</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.shutdownstate" default="true">1</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.waitfornetwork" default="true">0</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.wakeonaccess" default="true">false</setting>

tokul · February 19, 2023 at 4:07 AM

Quote from Glorious1

Are you saying Raspberry Pi tools is supposed to provide an orderly software shutdown? It doesn't.
Are you saying in order to have orderly shutdown, you need to install a hardware switch on those IO pins and make some file modifications?

I am not saying that to have orderly shutdown, you need hardware switch on io pins. I only told that if RPi is powered off via menu, it will need that switch or other way to cut off power to restart. I did assume that tools addon is required and you are free to fact check me on that.

So far you kept claiming that Kodi power off does not work without providing any information to investigate it further. If you are here for blue twitter checkmark, they have other blue thing too on some posts. My RPi3B+ does not restart, if I use power off option in Kodi. It shutdowns. I don't remember its firmware version. Original RPi3B+ with 1 meg of ram. It does not have any extra hardware mods.

Checked Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.2 too. 2023 Jan 11 bootloader. It shutdowns via Kodi menu even without RPi tools addon. Technically hardware is not shutdown. It is halted.

Glorious1 · February 19, 2023 at 5:40 AM

Quote from Da Flex
I don't know. Menu shutdown works for me, so I eventually just have different settings.
Please login by SSH, and open /storage/.kodi/userdata/guisettings.xml with the nano editor.
My power management section looks like this. Try the same settings:
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<setting id="powermanagement.displaysoff" default="true">0</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.shutdowntime" default="true">0</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.shutdownstate" default="true">1</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.waitfornetwork" default="true">0</setting>
<setting id="powermanagement.wakeonaccess" default="true">false</setting>

Thanks, yes, my powermanagement lines look exactly like that.

Glorious1 · February 19, 2023 at 6:24 PM

Quote from tokul

I am not saying that to have orderly shutdown, you need hardware switch on io pins. I only told that if RPi is powered off via menu, it will need that switch or other way to cut off power to restart. I did assume that tools addon is required and you are free to fact check me on that.
So far you kept claiming that Kodi power off does not work without providing any information to investigate it further. If you are here for blue twitter checkmark, they have other blue thing too on some posts. My RPi3B+ does not restart, if I use power off option in Kodi. It shutdowns. I don't remember its firmware version. Original RPi3B+ with 1 meg of ram. It does not have any extra hardware mods.
Checked Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.2 too. 2023 Jan 11 bootloader. It shutdowns via Kodi menu even without RPi tools addon. Technically hardware is not shutdown. It is halted.

So I'm getting clear now, that behavior of mine with menu shutdown is not normal. Thanks.

I don't know what information would be useful. And I have no idea what blue twitter checkmark is; I don't use Twitter.

LibreELEC 10.0.4

Raspberry Pi 4b

I found these commands in another thread; don't know what it means. Bootloader is older than what you referred to, but "latest":

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LibreELEC:/ # rpi-eeprom-update
BOOTLOADER: up to date
   CURRENT: Wed Dec  7 14:24:15 UTC 2022 (1670423055)
    LATEST: Wed Dec  7 14:24:15 UTC 2022 (1670423055)
   RELEASE: default (/usr/lib/kernel-overlays/base/lib/firmware/raspberrypi/bootloader/default)
            Use raspi-config to change the release.

  VL805_FW: Using bootloader EEPROM
     VL805: up to date
   CURRENT: 000138a1
    LATEST: 000138a1
LibreELEC:/ # 
LibreELEC:/ # vcgencmd bootloader_version
2022/12/07 14:24:15
version 0fc8fc8e5d5f506a83391f96e8285eb2a3116387 (release)
timestamp 1670423055
update-time 1612279788
capabilities 0x0000007f
LibreELEC:/ # 
LibreELEC:/ # vcgencmd bootloader_config
[all]
BOOT_UART=0
WAKE_ON_GPIO=1
POWER_OFF_ON_HALT=0

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**Da Flex** · February 19, 2023 at 6:26 PM

Thanks for the verification. Do you have a spare microSD? If yes, install LE 10.0.4 from scratch on it, and try again.

If no success with those factory defaults:

create an advancedsettings.xml file, and activate log level 1
after your next unwanted reboot, upload kodi.old.log to PasteBin (make sure that it's complete after uploading)
post the resulting PasteBin URL

Glorious1 · February 19, 2023 at 8:02 PM

Thanks. No spare microSD, but I put the image on a USB and was able to boot from that. It behaved just like my regular install. But this gave me an opportunity to study the behavior. Here's what happens when I use the Kodi menu "Power Off System":

TV switches off
RPi main light turns off for ~half second, then back on.
RPi access light blinks a few seconds like it does when booting from power off.
The main light stays on, the fan stays on.
When I turn the TV back on, no video from Kodi. I have to switch RPi off and on again to get it back.

So it seems to be rebooting with lights and fan on, but not working after, until I power cycle it. Is that what it's supposed to do? Anyway, here's the debug log (note I had to power cycle before I could submit it). http://ix.io/4h7V It doesn't look like any Kodi log I've seen before.

**Da Flex** · February 19, 2023 at 10:27 PM

Disable the CEC adapter on the input settings (click on it, and deactivate it). I think RPi gets a CEC wake-up call after shutdown.

If you need CEC, only deactivate CEC wake-up functions on those settings.

If that doesn't help, provide a proper kodi.old.log, like I said above.

Glorious1 · February 20, 2023 at 12:18 AM

Okay, your log instructions above seem to have changed.

Under Settings > System > Input > Peripherals > CEC Adpater, I'm seeing settings mostly for controlling other devices, not for incoming CEC commands, as best I can tell. Exceptions might be:

When the TV is switched of --> Suspend

Action when switching to another source --> Pause Playback

The second one seems good, but the first one I changed to Ignore. I tried it then several times (with power cycle in between) and using the Power System Off menu still put it into that state of being on but not putting out video.

I found a file that seems relevant:

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LibreELEC:~ # cat .kodi/userdata/peripheral_data/cec_CEC_Adapter.xml
<settings>
    <setting id="activate_source" value="1" />
    <setting id="button_release_delay_ms" value="0" />
    <setting id="button_repeat_rate_ms" value="0" />
    <setting id="cec_hdmi_port" value="1" />
    <setting id="cec_standby_screensaver" value="0" />
    <setting id="cec_wake_screensaver" value="1" />
    <setting id="connected_device" value="36037" />
    <setting id="device_name" value="Kodi" />
    <setting id="device_type" value="1" />
    <setting id="double_tap_timeout_ms" value="300" />
    <setting id="enabled" value="1" />
    <setting id="pause_or_stop_playback_on_deactivate" value="36045" />
    <setting id="pause_playback_on_deactivate" value="0" />
    <setting id="physical_address" value="1000" />
    <setting id="power_avr_on_as" value="0" />
    <setting id="send_inactive_source" value="1" />
    <setting id="standby_devices" value="36037" />
    <setting id="standby_devices_advanced" value="" />
    <setting id="standby_pc_on_tv_standby" value="13011" />
    <setting id="standby_tv_on_pc_standby" value="1" />
    <setting id="tv_vendor" value="0" />
    <setting id="use_tv_menu_language" value="0" />
    <setting id="wake_devices" value="36037" />
    <setting id="wake_devices_advanced" value="" />
</settings>

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When I changed that TV switched off setting, the line

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<setting id="standby_pc_on_tv_standby" value="13011" />

changed to a value of 36028. But as noted, that didn't help. The CEC Adapter settings are not documented on the Kodi wiki.

Glorious1 · February 20, 2023 at 1:08 AM

So then I did the old kodi log with loglevel 1 as you asked. This is after rebooting, then going immediately to the "Power System Off" menu item. Then after it finishes blinking, turning off power. There's definitely some ERRORs in there, but I don't understand what's going on.

Line 992 is where it seems to see me navigating to Power system off.

hastebin

**Da Flex** · February 20, 2023 at 1:16 AM

Use the default skin. It might be a wrong function mapping on a custom skin.

Glorious1 · February 20, 2023 at 2:02 AM

Well, somewhere back in the troubleshooting you had me boot to a brand new install of LE, which had the default skin. It behaved exactly the same. But I guess I could see if the loglevel 1 log looks the same.

**mglae** · February 20, 2023 at 4:14 PM Best Answer

You can use halt target instead of poweroff target:

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ln -s /usr/lib/systemd/system/halt.target /storage/.config/system.d/poweroff.target
systemctl daemon-reload

Can you shut down Raspberry Pi running LibreELEC?

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