8440U , 28W Supported by LibreELEC?

  • Was doing some research for the next best Chipset after the N100 as a miniPC with lowish power draw and my research points towards the Ryzen 8440U

    Intel Processor N100 vs AMD Ryzen 7 8840U
    Comparison between Intel Processor N100 and AMD Ryzen 7 8840U with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also th...
    gadgetversus.com


    Mainly interested in single core speed. From Ali for around £260, it aligns well for value.
    I'm not in the process of buying but was wondering how well do you think it would work out of the box compared to an N100.
    Literally only Gigabyte has one

    GB-BER7-8840 Key Features | BRIX (Mini-PC Barebone) - GIGABYTE Global
    Classic BRIX extreme design AMD Ryzen™ 7 PRO 8840U Processor AMD Radeon™ 780M Super Fast 2.5G LAN + Wi-Fi 6E module 4x 4K Display outputs, 2x HDMI, 1x mini DP…
    www.gigabyte.com


    Asrock has this
    https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/4X4-8840U

    you have lots of handheld using this
    but only one chinese minipc vendor lol

    any speculative thoughts on this? thx

  • thanks chewitt I'm so tempted lol
    this comparison has it 96% faster in single core compared to the N100.

    The N100 I can source for around £70 on sales, the 8840u for £260

    So you're paying 271% more with 366% more power draw (28w vs 6w) for 96% faster single core.

    On idle these boxes are not that high in power draw and you'll be using hardware decode too.
    Once prices reach more reasonable levels like £150, I think this would be great to test out.
    It is strange that only a single Chinese box is selling this inside a minipc form factor, most are hand held.
    anyway hope someone does try it out lol

  • so we did some more research and realised the U series is not what you want but the HS, my friend got an expensive box (BEELINX SER8)to test with the 8745HS, (exact same as the 8845HS but without the NPU) and the results are impressive when compared to other boxes

    measur pyscore for single core python speed he gets

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    He said he can't hear the fan, and to compare against the N100, that scored 331,408
    that's 115% more performance ,
    the GMKtek k6 plus on aliexpress is roughly the same amount more lol

    here is the list I'm recording if anyone wants to see, Libreelec is at top lol


    For the price of the MINIX Z100-0dB Fanless Mini PC you can get the GMKtek k6 plus which I've heard is silent
    and get twice the performance , that's insane, also the GPU knocks the socks of this.

    I'd love your opinion on this sky42 , have you come across this? the 8745HS or even the 7845HS, they haven't changed much
    thx

  • Benchmarks focus on "Which is fastest?" when the better question(s) are "Which is fast-enough for a good experience?" and "Which is best supported?" so they are not telling the whole story.

    e.g. RK3588 wins all current ARM SoC benchmarks but is only borderline usable due to incomplete software, whereas comparatively slow RPi5 is more than fast-enough and exceptionally well supported. Intel based hardware also scores big numbers but has been a lottery in recent years due to the never-ending drama from by LSPCON chips (and firmware) in the display chain.

    In short: Speed != Value

  • thanks for your replies, as always I appreciate when experts in this field that have worked for over a decade share their knowledge.
    100% agree with your sentiment. value is important. For example Optane is not good value because for the use case it doesn't translate to better user experience.

    my friend already has the N150. The reason he got this box is because he actually needs more performance in Windows. He's also has issues with OSD saturation in LibreELEC on his LG C3 (I believe). The performance on his N150 is excellent otherwise

    So for him their is value and living in Canada he doesn't get the discounts I get in UK. So getting a GMKek k6 plus was out of the question. and he found a good deal on this box. I tried to convince him to buy a Genmachine from China but without warranty and people reporting issues , it was not worth it (for him)

    I thought to share what I learnt about these Ryzen chipset since I've not heard anyone talk about , nor tested it. And seeing that it's literally as much as an N100 based system (Z100) and that from all accounts you can't even hear the fan, then I think it's worth discussing. The N100 seems to find it's spot as the go to x86 system to get, so having people share their experience with this new Ryzen chips can raise awareness at how much the field has improved and what performance you can get.

    Lastly the community I'm from are heavily invested in addons and stuff like widgets. it matters and knowing their is options for speed for those that want it is good. :)