Hidden password characters on LE settings

BallerShotCaller · April 8, 2020 at 9:19 AM

Recently there is this great new feature on LE which allows you to set a password on LE settings.

Since the characters are being showed in clear text on the TV screen everytime you login into LE settings it would be nice to have those characters hidden so others cannot see it while typing in, for example like any other password protected KODI settings which are showing points instead of real characters.

BallerShotCaller · March 9, 2021 at 4:30 AM

As it comes into a new release I wanted to ask again for this (which would be potentially a small "fix" I guess?).

Is there any reason this cannot be implemented easily? Just a question.

**Klojum** · March 9, 2021 at 7:00 AM Official Post

I know the password display can be a thing for some people, but on the other hand:

I'd say that LibreELEC is used in personal spaces, homes, in 90+ percent of the cases.

What are the chances that someone (not part of your family) at ground level peeking through a window, or further away with a pair of binoculars, is actually watching you typing in your wifi password? Entering a wifi password is perhaps done once every 5 years, if not longer. People are lazy about changing their passwords. And typing in a password takes what... 30 seconds at best?

I think we're good here.

BallerShotCaller · March 9, 2021 at 8:26 AM

I can see your point of view but if it would not take much effort to implement this, why not?

This feature was originally asked by me and I'm very thankful that this was done by one of your developers.

The first goal for me was to keep the kids away from content that does not belong to them. But as you can imagine kids are always only a few seconds away whenever they mention a small possibility to watch TV and sitting next to me, watching every step I do carefully, asking what I am doing now, and so on. They are learning quicker than you can imagine what it means what I am doing.

So again: It would be sad not to implement this if it would not take much work to make the feature a perfect feature. There's a reason why a password is a password. I'm not saying the feature is useless right now but less usable than the initial basic idea was.

If on the other hand it actually will take hours of work, which I am not supposed to evaluate, then I indeed would say that it's not worth it.

Nevermid, I'm not mad at all. I just think it would be sad to leave this feature in an "unfinished" state.

**chewitt** · March 9, 2021 at 8:30 AM Official Post

I've flagged it in team chat. I agree it should be hidden when entering the PIN.

**Jocke.Sve** · March 9, 2021 at 1:12 PM

Maybe a redundant question but:

If You are using remote/airmouse without numeric keys You still need to use On Screen Keyboard, right?

And pressing keys there is (close to) as visible as everything else?

Or am I thing incorrectly there?

**chewitt** · March 9, 2021 at 1:21 PM Official Post

Quote from Jocke.Sve

And pressing keys there is (close to) as visible as everything else?

Correct, but still not as obvious to kids/spouse as showing the PIN on the screen

**Jocke.Sve** · March 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM

Quote from chewitt

Correct, but still not as obvious to kids/spouse as showing the PIN on the screen

Uhhhmmm, well, maybe..

IIRC You still see the selection on screen even if character/number not shown.

But try to hide it from a curious 10-12 year old kids...

Good luck with that!

BallerShotCaller · March 9, 2021 at 2:40 PM

I'm using a Logitech Harmony Elite remote control which has a touch numeric panel. Which surely allows you to hide what you're typing in.

**chewitt** · March 10, 2021 at 1:59 AM Official Post

I'm told this was fixed in PIN cleanup by MilhouseVH · Pull Request #159 · LibreELEC/service.libreelec.settings · GitHub last April - so please test a currently nightly image and confirm.

**Jocke.Sve** · March 10, 2021 at 6:29 AM

Quote from BallerShotCaller

I'm using a Logitech Harmony Elite remote control which has a touch numeric panel. Which surely allows you to hide what you're typing in.

And my (and nobody else's) Rii mini doesn't have those keys...

BallerShotCaller · March 10, 2021 at 12:19 PM

Quote from Jocke.Sve

And my (and nobody else's) Rii mini doesn't have those keys...

Then get one. Totally worth it.

Edit: Just checked the Rii mini. It has standard numeric keys. Which allows you to hide your enterings also, if you really wanted to. At least much more than having to enter it by using LE's virtual keyboard.

Quote from chewitt

I'm told this was fixed in PIN cleanup by MilhouseVH · Pull Request #159 · LibreELEC/service.libreelec.settings · GitHub last April - so please test a currently nightly image and confirm.

Oh, nice! I will! Thanks so far!

**Jocke.Sve** · March 10, 2021 at 12:40 PM

Quote from BallerShotCaller

Then get one. Totally worth it.
Edit: Just checked the Rii mini. It has standard numeric keys. Which allows you to hide your enterings also, if you really wanted to. At least much more than having to enter it by using LE's virtual keyboard

Sry: Rii i7 Mini doesn't have any numeric keys, I have three, one on each LE box.

No plans for replacing, TY anyway!

BallerShotCaller · March 11, 2021 at 10:10 AM

Quote from chewitt

I'm told this was fixed in PIN cleanup by MilhouseVH · Pull Request #159 · LibreELEC/service.libreelec.settings · GitHub last April - so please test a currently nightly image and confirm.

It works like it should in the latest nightly build.

Now I'm looking more forward than ever to the final release

Thank you guys so much!