Hyperion issue: playback slowdown and halting.

sunnyfunny · December 7, 2017 at 7:23 PM

This thread is about hyperion, and not about using external grabbers.

wonderiuy · December 10, 2017 at 9:15 AM

Yes but since this thread is about Amlogic + Hyperion and

Quote from vevs

And unfortunately we don't know how to motivate kernel developers for looking into this issue

we are discussing about a solution. Isn't this thread about solution to a problem?

And yes, the suggested solution involve Hyperion, so we are in topic

Momo90 · December 10, 2017 at 6:08 PM

Quote from wonderiuy

That Tutorial doens't use HD or 4K grabber

No. But as far i know no working hd or 4k grabbers exist. But this doesnt matter because the grabbed picture is downscaled and i dont think you have 1080 leds (or more) installed behind your tv.

homeruk187 · December 10, 2017 at 8:28 PM

Quote from Momo90

No. But as far i know no working hd or 4k grabbers exist. But this doesnt matter because the grabbed picture is downscaled and i dont think you have 1080 leds (or more) installed behind your tv.

I too have this issue however if you're going down the splitter route then you'll need something that can output from the source to your display. Its a big jump in price to a 4k splitter and the cheaper models only support hdmi 1.4. Its not a show stopper for me, I just put up with a couple of pauses when I am watching H265 content.

skupi · December 13, 2017 at 5:27 PM

Anyone could share with latest binary of hyperion.ng for Krypton kszaq version for S905 (wetek hub), i try to compile it be myself, but with no luck ( crosscompile is not updated on git) My host is ubuntu 14.04.

I hope someone will find solution for those slowdowns and hangs, cause as someone mention, external grabber make system more expensive

wonderiuy · December 13, 2017 at 9:50 PM

Skupi if you succed i'm interested in the compiled version

wonderiuy · January 4, 2018 at 12:14 PM

Any news on this?

Which is a hardware that supports libreelec and hyperion with 4k and x265 capability? I can't live with my leds

Momo90 · January 4, 2018 at 1:31 PM

You could try hd fury vertex

wonderiuy · January 4, 2018 at 2:18 PM

That's not a piece of harware where i can install libreelec on

Momo90 · January 4, 2018 at 3:17 PM

no. but you could use it to connect to any source (4k, HDR) and an external grabber solution (grabber+RPI).

So:

Source (whatever including 4k and HDR)--> vertex -->

vertex out a to TV (4k and HDR);

vertex out b (scaled to 1080) to converter - > grabber --> RPI (running LE and the Hyperion addon) --> leds

As far as I know the vertex is the only hardware solution which can put out 4k + HDR on one HDMI outlet and simultanously 1080p on another HDMI outlet.

sunnyfunny · January 7, 2018 at 2:46 PM

Quote from Momo90

As far as I know the vertex is the only hardware solution which can put out 4k + HDR on one HDMI outlet and simultanously 1080p on another HDMI outlet.

That is not correct. You can also use a Receiver with 2 HDMI Out (Like Pioneer VSX-1131-B)

homeruk187 · January 7, 2018 at 3:39 PM

Quote from sunnyfunny

That is not correct. You can also use a Receiver with 2 HDMI Out (Like Pioneer VSX-1131-B)

These hardware solutions that people are posting cost over £300, the pioneer one is £400-500. There must be a way to get this working without that sort of expense. Perhaps an alternative box but as the Hyperion add-on doesn't support hardware acceleration it will need to be libreelec. When I see need, I like the ease of the libreelec and my little 905x box that cost 40 squid.

Momo90 · January 8, 2018 at 2:17 PM

Just found this post but could not test it yet. Maybe a solution:

[8.2.2.3] LibreELEC 8.2 for S905/S905X

Quote from Vigilant
I found a solution for those who want to use hyperion-addon on this build. You must reduce the polling frequency of aml-grabber to 10 Hz. This is enough for normal operation.
Code
// FRAMEGRABBER CONFIG
    "framegrabber" : 
    {
        "width" : 68,
        "height" : 36,
        "frequency_Hz" : 10.0,
    },

    // AML GRABBER CONFIG
    "amlgrabber" : 
    {
        "width" : 68,
        "height" : 36,
        "frequency_Hz" : 10.0,
    },
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darkside40 · January 9, 2018 at 8:01 PM

Would be worth a try. Unfortunately i am stuck at work till end of the week.

arakmar · January 9, 2018 at 9:46 PM

Hello everyone !

I only discover this thread after months of research about this issue...

There is hope ! Since the last week, I'm testing the latest kernel updates from amlogic ([3.14] Merge kernel updates from Amlogic Nougat 2017-09-28 SDK by codesnake · Pull Request #70 · LibreELEC/linux-amlogic · GitHub) and I didn't had any slowdown since that.

Maybe it's just by luck, I'll continue my tests for some days and keep you informed.

There is also another option, hyperion.ng introduced a new capture mode for the amlogic grabber. It's done directly via GE2D / amvideo and not by amvideocap anymore.

It needs additional kernel patches : Commits · Arakmar/linux-amlogic-le · GitHub

It works just fine for the hardkernel kernel. But I haven't manage to get it working on the Librelec amlogic kernel, it captures just a black screen.

I need to investigate that a bit more when I'll have time.

arakmar · January 9, 2018 at 10:01 PM

Quote from darkside40

Would be worth a try. Unfortunately i am stuck at work till end of the week.In iIt IIt

Quote from Momo90

Just found this post but could not test it yet. Maybe a solution:

[8.2.2.3] LibreELEC 8.2 for S905/S905X

I tried that some months ago, unfortunately it just delays a bit the slowdown (at ~60 min and before ~20-40 min) . But it's definitely better than nothing

Momo90 · January 10, 2018 at 7:38 AM

I also testet the solution suggested by vigilant, but the lags still appear.

Apart from that setting the frequency to 10 HZ causes ambilight to be not smooth

Vigilant · January 10, 2018 at 8:47 AM

Quote from Momo90

I also testet the solution suggested by vigilant, but the lags still appear.

Apart from that setting the frequency to 10 HZ causes ambilight to be not smooth

I don't have any lags after lowering frequency to 10 Hz. Smoothing config frequency is 20 Hz.

I don't see any point in having grabber frequency above 20 Hz.