hauppauge wintv-dual hd - only see one tuner

  • dvb-t2 mux must be assigned to dvb-t logical frontend in tvh. Need set delivery system as dvb-t2 for certain mux, because dvb-t/t2 autodetect not supported.

    Atsc-c is dvb-c annex b (6mHz muxes), used in some south america countries.

  • dvb-t2 mux must be assigned to dvb-t logical frontend in tvh. Need set delivery system as dvb-t2 for certain mux, because dvb-t/t2 autodetect not supported.

    Thanks crazycat.

    So it sounds like it should work, and I have tvh configured as you suggest but tuning / scanning still fails. As as sanity check I disabled tvh, cold booted the system and ran w_scan but although it appears to detect the DVB-T2 muxes, it also reports a similar tuning failure.

    I have a good signal - my TV can tune the DVB-T2 muxes no problem.

    Scanning DVB-T2...

    546000: (time: 05:24.169) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 546000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0)

    QAM_AUTO f = 546000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:16516)

    QAM_AUTO f = 546000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:16516) : updating network_id -> (0:12339:16516)

    570000: (time: 05:44.896) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0)

    QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:40960)

    QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:40960) : updating network_id -> (0:12339:40960)

    586000: (time: 05:59.739) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 586000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0)

    QAM_AUTO f = 586000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:45056)

    QAM_AUTO f = 586000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:45056) : updating network_id -> (0:12339:45056)


    tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 546000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12339:16516) (time: 10:05.306)

    ----------no signal----------

    tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 546000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12339:16516) (time: 10:11.326) (no signal)

    ----------no signal----------

    tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12339:40960) (time: 10:17.349)

    ----------no signal----------

    tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12339:40960) (time: 10:23.373) (no signal)

    ----------no signal----------

    tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 586000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12339:45056) (time: 10:29.393)

    ----------no signal----------

    tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 586000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12339:45056) (time: 10:35.416) (no signal)

    ----------no signal----------

  • Solved!

    I had to manually configure the bandwidth in tvh for the DVB-T2 muxes (8Mhz for UK Freeview).

    If it was set to AUTO, scanning and tuning always failed. Even when the other parameters were set correctly (Delivery mode, Frequency, Constellation, Transmission mode, Guard interval, FEC).

    As soon as I set bandwidth to 8Mhz on the DVB-T2 muxes, scanning, tuning and EPG collection work perfectly. Wonderful!

    Thank you to crazycat and edit4ever for helping me to figure this out. I hope this can be useful info for anyone else struggling with the same situation.

    :)

  • I have made a testimage with the patch I want to include in the next LE release. It would be nice if someone could verify that it works.

    Index of /Test/8.2/ <- this bases at an early LE8.2 build so better do a complete backup before the update (8.2 has no working plugins yet), you will also need a "new" Tvheadend version that runs at 8.2 (both included).

    Thanks CvH! I setup an ASUS chromebox2 to run Kodi for the first time. I also was failing to get the Wintv-Dual to work. I reinstalled the OS using the image you provided and now all works well. I guess this means I have validated the image for an x86 platform? Thanks again for providing this, I thought I would have to wait several weeks for the official 4.12 release.:)

  • I have one of these tuners arriving in the post today. I have the option of using either a Pi2 or Pi 3 to set it up. can i just check would i be better off using the early LE8.2 build by CvH or should i use the precomlied image from edit4ever posted on the previous page.

    many thanks

  • Probably depends on how much comfort you have with testing/fixing. 8.2 might have a few issues or missing addons. I've been running on my RPi3 and seems to be good. However, as an example of addon updates - I can run a later version of Tvh on 8.0.2 as the nightly builds by CvH are readily available.

    I would start with 8.0.2 and wait for the release of 8.2 if you want a reliable stable system.

    P.S. Check out my tvh2kodi addon and you can use the built in wizard to get the tuner up and running quickly without having to use the web interface! tvh2kodi addon - configure tvheadend from kodi interface

  • Thanks for the reply

    I have literally just bookmarked the thread about your tvh2kodi addon and will absolutely be trying it out, just reading through it, can i set up decryption using your addon edit4ever ?.

    slightly confused ....when you say start with 8.02 is that the image you liked on the previous page? or is there a better alternative image i should be using?

    I cannot wait to have this working, but stability is a must or the wife and monsters may well do me bodily harm.

  • It's the link on the previous page. You can also use CvH's 8.2 test image on that page if you want. It really depends on what other addons you will need. The standard LE 8.0.2 releases do not include the dual tuner support patches yet - the 8.2 release will once it's out.

    Based on your decryption question - I'm guessing you're in Europe? Since we don't have that function here, I haven't really tested it...but I'm happy to have you see if it works and I can quickly work on any fixes. :)

  • Hoping for some assistance, I have installed the zip from edit4ever and scanned in services, it seems to be ok at this point however when i start editing the channels tvheadend goes unresponsive and i get a red error in the logging area saying "There seems to be a problem with the live update feed from Tvheadend. Trying to reconnect..." at this point it is gone, completely knackered. restarting the Pi3 does nothing, enabling and disabling tvheadend from the addons menu does nothing. The only way i have found to bring it back up is to uninstall and reinstall.

    Anyone have any ideas how i have cocked it up?

    For completeness when in the Addon admin screen from kodi it says i i am using Tvheadend 4.2 - 8.1.111 by librelec tv. is this the right version?

    I have been trying to set it up using just one tuner initially.

    Thanks for any insight you can offer

    EDIT. Im a dick that cant read instructions ;(. I have downloaded the correct zip of the updated tvheadend from CvH and will now try with that.

    EDIT 2

    I'm now getting a dependencies error on the file i downloaded so i'm guessing i have managed to cock it up again some how. There are days that i should not be allowed out of the house without adult supervision :cursing:.

  • sometimes you need to get the libreelec and kodi repos to initiate by goinginto them in the addons section. I've noticed that when I just try to install my tvh2kodi and other addons on a clean system without having looked in the LE or kodi repositories - I get dependency errors (seems it doens't know how to download addons)

    Just go to addons, click the install from repository and select the LE LibreELEC Add-ons and then back out and select the Kodi Addon repository.

    This should initialize those repos and then you can install my tvh2kodi addon and it should install the dependencies. Let me know if that doesn't work!

  • dadof3monsters also want to make sure that you've installed both the tvheadend services addon and the tvheadend (hts) pvr client.

    Basically - for a clean install my order is the following:

    1. install LibreELEC on microsd
    2. let it boot and setup your network, samba, ssh options
    3. select addons and install both the tvh services (server) addon and the tvh client (hts) addon from the LibreELEC repository
    4. browse the Kodi addons repository (just to make sure it is working)
    5. reboot
    6. install my tvh2kodi addon
    7. run the wizard
    8. confirm that you can watch a live tv channel from the kodi interface
    9. back to tvh2kodi edit channels (remove the ones you don't want - or don't come in clearly)
    10. set your dvr recording location
    11. enjoy

    Not all these steps may be necessary - but this has worked consitantly for me.

    Option after that is to get your channel logos setup. If you want you start iwth this set of logos: Dropbox - tv_channel_icons_pack_by_ati711-d4a0spa.zip

    Copy the ones you want into the picons/tvh folder on your pi. Rename the files to match the channel name (exactly). Then in tvh2kodi (latest version) go to the tvh base configuration section and change the channel icon scheme to no scheme. If you then reload the pvr/live tv data (kodi pvr/live tv settings) it should find the logos.

  • edit4ever Thanks for the baby steps really appreciated. I tried to use your addon initially however the wizard would not work as none of the predefined mux's are appropriate for DVB-C in the UK, so i tried manually and probably cocked that up as well ;). I will reinstall everything and have a go from scratch, hopefully with the knowledge i have gained from this attempt and your instructions above i will get further this time.

    appreciate your assistance mate :thumbup:

  • Thanks for the offer. I don't think it would be an easy add. From my understanding Virgin media UK use different symbol rates and frequencies in different geographical areas making a comprehensive pre built list almost impossible.

    I have scanned manually and have it working including the decryption. The issue I am now having is continuity errors on HD programmes. Picture breaks up randomly. I have installed the mpeg2 license but made little difference.

    Is the pi3 capable of being the server and client at the same time? Or should I just use it to serve to other devices?

    Feel like I'm so close to having it sorted but the wife and kids won't accept it as it is presently as I have an almost solid setup on Windows using dvbviewer. I, however would prefer to ditch windows.

  • It's definitely capable of being both. I've had three streams running (two recording and 1 watching) on my RPi3.

    The stream may not be mpeg2...you can hit the "o" button while watching a stream (if you have a remote with a keyboard) and bring up the kodi player process window to see info about the stream. You can also check the signal quality there to make sure that's not the issue. I actually just had to remove an amplifier on my system as the signal was too strong for the wintv-dualhd.

    Also - just to know - did you go with my LE 8 build or an 8.2 test build?

    Hope that gives you some more info. Glad you got setup to this point!

  • Hey. I went with your build. The stream is definitely mpeg2 as that was one of the things I checked.

    I'll have a look at the signal strength and cabling later (dragged to a family bbq) it could be the cable as it's a shotgun cable with one half carrying dvb-c and the other was being used for DVB-T so its thinner than installed by the cable technicians. I'll keep investigating. Not gonna give up on this.