Posts by thestraycat

Quote from vpeter

Looks like you don't understand what this discussion is all about. Hint: nothing about CE-LE relationship

I dont. That's why i'm asking.

Quote from noggin

cpm is a user over in the CoreElec forums who has done some work on improving Dolby VS10 and other stuff within CoreElec.

Fundamentally - as I understand it - LibreElec runs with the mainstream Linux approach to video (using V4L2 stuff? - and there is some AMLogic support for mainline now) whereas CoreElec has taken a different path that allows their AMLogic specific implementation (using a non-mainline approach) to continue to work with Kodi using the AMLogic proprietary stuff?

Thanks. That makes sense.

So is it safe to say, For Dolby Vision support (on a DoVi supported Amlogic platform) CoreElec is my best bet for the foreseeable future?

sorry what is cpm an abbreviation of?

vpeter  KyleS

I'm a bit underspeed on this! I believe that sraue was the original openelec founder that led to the creation of libreelec and coreelec. However I'm not too sure who kszaq is or whether he/she/they work for librelec or coreelec... Or why that would be an issue.

Can you summarize what's happened? Genuinely interested to understand it better.

Update: Been trawling a few threads.. picked out this comment randomly from a long thread as it seems to summarize one persons opinion of the forking of the project.

• I'll give you a potted summary: the CoreELEC founders claim they were "thrown out of Team LibreELEC" when in fact they left of their own accord because they couldn't handle their Amlogic contributions being peer-reviewed, and since then they've been sniping at LibreELEC while consuming _everything_ we produce and giving _nothing_ back. They left, it was their choice, and they're full of animosity/hate - there's little we can do about how they feel to be honest, but we certainly won't tolerate their sh*t on our forum.

So it seems:

LibreElec = RPI/x86 Generic

CoreElec = Android (Amologic)

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Thanks for the reply. But surely LibreElec could support DV if the SOC that it was installed on already had a paid license? Is it not possible to support LibreElec on a platform that does have the license paid... It seems CoreElec have piggybacked off of that capability?

As per the title really. I was wondering whether this was on the roap map or an impossibility with how Libreelec differs from CoreElec? Thought it would be an interesting discussion for anyone that knows more as to the limitations and possibilities of this making it's way to LibreElec?

Zobi - Does the n100 have HDMI-CEC support?... that would be a deal breaker for me...

Is it that the HDMI handshaking and/or stability are affected when using the Argon One case? Real shame... I was looking at getting one purely for NVMe... Are there any less troublesome cases that enable an M.2 NVMe device on a RPI? I have a few spare and want to get off this SD Card

chewitt - Thanks for the reply - I agree with your points.

Just to stretch the conversation, I suppose the power consumption may not be too much of an issue for me if i'm only using the system for 2-3 hours twice a week for a movie etc as my main lounge htpc solution. However i'm totally rpi4 on any additional tv's in bedrooms etc.

And i totally agree with your point about the amount of fixes and optmizations that go into the rpi4 codebase compared to snowflake generic builds. I'd assume there's a ton more variables that can catch anyone running a generic build that the rpi4 dosn't have to worry about.

However, do you not feel that from a future proofing perspective that we're nearing the end of what the rpi4b hardware can handle in terms of gpu and hardware limitations for anything more than 4K HDR 10bit? It feels that the next move for tv and film will be a push to 8k and i'm not sure when and even if the rpi5 will compliment the move to these future formats... (Granted they'll be very little content in 8k for years etc, etc so potentially a moot point for most people.) It does feel like for me it's a consideration because i already have both rpi4 and the kit to assemble the higher end generic build.

Lastly, is there not an argument for potentially better movie decoding from the generic build in regards to using a more powerful dedicated GPU for processing and image optimization compared to the capabilities of the rpi4? That's me asking... i really don't have any comparison for this.

Hi Guys,

I've been sitting on some hardware for two Intel Xeon D HTPC's that i plan on using some older AMD RX550 passive gpu's i have lying about. In the meantime i've been using the RPI4b and tbh... It's handled everything pretty well. I'm an avid 4K x265 10bit media consumer and I'm always interested in ways of using more computation power to better my HTPCs processing and image quality so it's nice to have the head room in the intel htpc but i'm struggling to think of any real advanages to running an intel based HTPC with an aftermarket AMD RX550 over just the RPI4b right now, other than having a platform that i can swap the card out for to support native 8k hardware decoding in the future and potentially dual booting into a more capable emulation pc i'm strugging to justify keeping the components from both htpc's.

Interested to hear others friendly opinions that 'are' or 'were' running a generic build. And what their views are right now with where the rpi4b currently is at with librelec development.

Cheers

Hi there guys,

I was seriously considering the RX550 as an upgrade to my ageing 750ti for my current build. I'm looking fo testimonials on peoples experiences.

Does LibreElec 9.xx have solid support for the RX550? I see from looking through the forum quite a few issues around audio dropping out and glitches. Is this now fixed?

Lastly, Is this card supported for 4k@60 at 10bit HDR and 4:4:4? and native HEVC decode? I couldnt see any references for this card exactly?

When you say manually install librelec at the end ... Do you mean copy the kernel and the system files over to the partitions you made for boot and data or burn librelec to a usb stick, boot librelec from usb and install it to your pre made partition?

Thanks Klojum,

Well as i need an external card, i suppose i'll be using the nvidia 1030 for now until AMD release something that fits the bill... Thanks guys.

Thanks. So to conclude, what cards will support the most cutting edge codecs on linux today?

Thanks. Yeah, I tend to agree. The Nas serves purpose for now as I do see 125mb/s from it and Its 10gb ready when I take the plunge and update the switch. I am running automation tools that send requests to clean and update the database as necessary when content is added. But I also do a routine scan at boot that occasionally catches Content that has been added since the htpc clients have been powered off and didn't want to go to a centralised SQL setup for complexities sake and increased dependencies on the setup, however at the scale of my library it can take around 1m to complete these days and hammers the device whilst it runs. The problem for me with throw away android boxes is the dependency on my triboot build needing windows for emulation. Hence why the android boxes are a no go.. and I need a little horsepower for that. What makes the android boxes so popular in terms of librelec development? Onboard chips support a handful of codecs at the time of manafacture, devs write code once and know that it'll be supported amongst a handful of cheap boxes with minimal customization? Would you say AMD (on Linux) are any further ahead in terms of 4k HDR h265 at multiple Color depths? Its a real pain with the Linux drivers always trailing the windows drivers in terms of cutting edge support. sorry for the questions I just see a lot of conflicting info online on the subject.

Spot on response. Thanks so much for that, answered so many of my questions...

I'd have thought off the top of off my head that there must be a lot of Nvidia hardware out there being re-purposed for DIY HTPC's though due to their prominence in the GPU scene? Maybe only second to the dominance of Intel integrated GPU's in the HTPC space?

Would AMD be a better choice going forward or is the future looking comparably bleak for them as well?

I really want to remain on x86 as i tri-boot these boxes and a have a dependency on Windows for Hyperspin (Over Hyperpie)... i do prefer the ideology of simply updating GPU's over replacing complete android boxes...(although i understand they are a huge overkill purely for HTPC!)

Is there any card in particular you could suggest with any life left in it going forward? (Low profile, single slot to add further complication)

Hi guys,

I'm putting together a new HTPC using parts i have... after growing out of my 2 x NUC's running Openelc 8.2.5 and wanting to push 4k content. I have two questions for anyone that has done it already...

I have a mini itx board, 16gb DDR4, 2 x 10GB ethernet and 4 core ~ 8 threads at 2.4ghz and a samsung pro 500gb SSD and a PCIe x16 gen3 slot for external GPU.

I have 2 GPU's handy.. .A 750ti and a 1030 i'm looking to future proof as much as possible. And have a few x265 4k encoded videos i'd like to play back? What would be the best direction? i do watch a lot of Anime and 8/10bit encoding would be beneficial. I'd be interested in future proofing to 8k but understand standards are far from set on this.

My second question is, i have quite a large collection (2000 movies ~ 15,000 tv episodes etc.) And am currently running from SATA SSD. My new board can take an m.2 NVMe drive like the Samsung Pro 970's my question really is, will i benefit from the upgrade? I've noticed scanning and cleaning the library can take some time.. All of my content lives on a NAS tied to single spinning disks (unraid) running at around 125-160MB/s would i benefit from the upgrade? I'm looking at speeding up the local database but am unsure whether the jump from 500MB/s to 2500MB/s will be utilized anyone done a swap out of their custom rig and noticed the difference?

Any advice would be good, i've been holding off any purchases.

HI guys,

I was wondering if there was an easy way of installing a clean version of LibreElec 8.2 in place of my v7.x install but preserving my Aeon Nox customisations?

I'm getting a lot cache full errors from what feels like bad upgrades potentially and cached files... I've made custom smart playlists, custom homepage categories etc, custom film discoveries etc, and don't want to have to relive the pain of recreating them all. Is there a file i can easily backup to preserve this info? Any info would be handy...

Appreciate the reply - I know right... I noticed one of my DNS servers was set to google. 8.8.8.8 and my secondry to my router 192.168.1.1 not sure if it would have introduced traffic or not. Ive uploaded both logs:

Kodi.log - eANK

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