Update version 20190309. Fixed remote control operation for Tronsmart Vega S96 (s912)
you're s905 new kernel have no picture in Netflix
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you might be right but the real world is where things really matter as most the are involved in higher education and high level engineering tend to work in isolated none real world environments where millions of dollars of equipment and controlled environments are their workspace.
the real world which is unfortunately based on cashola tend to cut corners to reduce cost but end up with products out in the field that may eventually fail sooner as compared to things from days gone by where quality ruled rather then quantity.
its not that i don't understand your opinion or even think that your wrong i just no if somethings within reason manufacturers will release the product and in the end in most cases the enduser takes it.
Ps3-4, xbox260-new one, tons of different laptops and the list goes on and on, and even tho because of bad flow profiles not really corrected to the none lead based solder has lead to tons of graphix failures occuring before they really should have. and a large part of those actually aren't even related to bad soldering but because Nvidea decided to let the graphix chips go out into the real world when they should not have.
in Nvidea's case the real issue lays not with board level bga mount but with bad flip-chip manufacturing which was a ENGINEERED calculation prior to packaging the wafer inside the outter bonded bga carrier. People think that reheating the board/bga mount is fixing the problem when all they are really doing is overheating the bga package which is making the flip-chip connections temporarily reconnect inside the chip itself.
as i said i understand your concern but i honestly think that until people that actually own and use the board start to complain about heat related issues i think you should do yourself a favor and let the issue go as i hate when i see unending debates over unproven issues and over the years i have watched you contribute since you 1st appeared over on Freaktab doing the linux thing along time ago and would never want to see people loose respect or credibility over something like this, especially when you've earned somuch cred's over the years by helping others.Bad - > Inefficient - > Costs do not match the result - > the User is forced to pay more than he gets. The current shape and location of the radiator can be easily replaced by others and will have the same results when working. The upper location of the needle radiator is about ~40x40 mm, without painting in black. This is equivalent to the fact that I need to get from point A to point B. for this rather small light car, but impose a large truck with the appropriate costs at my expense. The rest of the shortcomings described in the topic the link.
Perhaps you are right, there is no point in explaining to those who do not want to understand. They don't want to see the graphics of HK itself, where the temperature under load of more than 70 degrees is clearly shown. Do not see the information from the user who conducted the test in favorable conditions and received almost 70 degrees in real work. They naively think, that a powerful processor s922, all buy exclusively for moreover, to look "movies" under minimum overstretched. It does not occur to them that the main purpose of a powerful processor is to work with large loads, and for "cinema" a minimum system based on s905x2 is enough.
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Therefore, it makes no sense to waste time on idle chatter, it is better to use this time for useful work on the production of new images.
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You can comment coolling solution. You wrote it is bad and tkaiser wrote it is good. Also numbers from real devices concur him. So why are you saying it is bad design? Do you even have this device to make some tests yourself? Or you just saying something to say something...
Do you think that in order to perform a thermal design calculation it is necessary to personally have a device ? Do you think a design engineer who designs a nuclear reactor should personally visit the inside of a working nuclear reactor to evaluate how it works, what kind of temeprature and other paramters ? Or the engineer who designs and calculates a heating system of a house, has to personally visit the house, touch all walls, to measure all parameters of materials of walls and only then will be able to execute thermotechnical calculation of a design ? To calculate the operation of the cooling system on N2 is not required to have it available, there are physical laws and methods of calculation that allow to perform with sufficient accuracy the analysis of how the design will work. There are also data from HK on the results of tests, there is information from real users who performed real work (at the request of users from the Armbian forum) and who provided the results. Based on this, it is not difficult to accurately calculate what and how it works. But again, if your information is not fake, the issue with the cooling system on N2 can significantly change for the better. It would be nice if HK would also add to the user manual the position of the device for users (radiator up). How users will implement this recommendation is another matter. The main thing is that HK would provide users with the right recommendations for working with their equipment.
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Leaked info: After all skepticism about SoC temperatures and having radiator on bottom side of the ODROID N2 device company decided to make improved version: ODROID N2+ with legs. Sadly the price will be little higher because of bigger manufacturing costs. But anyway, now we can have even better device!
If it's not a fake from one of the users who added the legs himself, then such a HK solution could have two positive points.
1. Elimination of design errors at the design stage.
2. An indicator of HK's attention to constructive criticism.
If it really is the info from HK, then respect them for these moments. Adding a package with 4 silicone feet to the package does not require large costs and further improves the stability of the entire structure on a smooth surface. If desired, HK can still make small changes that can improve the functionality and consumer properties of the equipment and reduce production costs.
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to be honest i was not aware of the comments that were made on cnx-software as i very rarely watch that site, and if thats whats been going on i would agree its not really the right thing to do as it effects opinions formed by others while they are looking for information, so i can understand how stuff like that can rub others the wrong way.
By the way, I recommend reading. I think you will be interested to know some nuances.
Announcement : Odroid N2 - General chit chat - Armbian forum
It is better to have the info from the source. Read from this comment and below ...
ODROID-N2 Amlogic S922X SBC Coming in April for $63 and Up
PS to other questions with reasonable arguments, I will answer as time becomes available.
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Update LE 20190304 images.
Fixed DTB for Tronsmart Vega S95 (s905), work LAN, HDMI sound, remote control. To use the remote control, you need to configure the file you are using (rename the existing file in the image), as described earlier in this topic.
Please note, for all those who have s905, if you have a very outdated u-boot, do not try to install in eMMC. This can lead to the destruction of the u-boot and the TV box will turn into a brick, which will need to be restored via USB Burn Tool.
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inflated price: much cheaper then anything in the same league
shitty cooling system: the coolest box ever even under heavy load
number of other errors:Consider. N2 80 (empty Board) + 4 (case) + 30 (32GB emmc and recording adapter) + 8 (WiFi) + 6 (power supply) + 4 (remote control) + 40 shipping. A total of more than 170. Soon there will be TV boxes on s922 and I have no doubt that their price is clearly not going to be so prohibitive. Or I can already take for this amount RK3399 with much more features (PCIe , support for video cameras, WoL, etc.), which will never be in N2. The funny thing is that rk3399 in real work, only 10-20% slower at maximum load. And given that in this topic, discussed LE (KODI), which is the most meager load, nor any benefits from a little more performance there. Much cheaper S905X2 easily replaces S922. Additional features of VPU\GPU-are now a minus, not a plus, because they have support only in closed legacy drivers from the kernel 3.14 (which are stuck in the kernel 4.9). And I don't see a lot of content that needs innovation from the G52. Regarding performance-I recommend to carefully study all the "tests" that were performed with N2 and if you are careful, you will see a lot of falsehood in them. Especially funny looks, the choice of the competitor with which to compare N2 - N1 does not exist. By the way, this is another reason why I would not rush to buy N2 - new owners of HK at any time can give an order to close this project (there is a sad experience with N1). It's funny to see the dilettantes talk about the cooling system. Under load, the chip temperature rises more than 70 degrees, this means that the radiator (which is idiotically located at the bottom and under the entire area of the motherboard) starts to work as a heater for the entire area of the motherboard. In which there are many metal conductors through which the entire structure and other components (memory, etc.) is actively heated. I.e., to heat themselves, it adds a good porchia heat from the processor. This clearly reduces their resource and overall performance. Probably this, N2 at the maximum load, shows acceleration at 10-20 % . Another problem, the heat that the components emit + additional heat from the lower radiator is "locked" in a plastic case, creating a greenhouse effect. Personally I have no desire to throw 170-180 and then spend time reworking mistakes constructors (remove the radiator and cover it from the motherboard insulating spacers and to invent how to add fan in this stupid design
Cough cough !!!
Talk about a Pinocchio post... why don't you exaggerate some more and see how long that nose of yours can grow !
I'm not interested in dealing with children.
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Actually Hardkernels stuff i have watched pretty much since they started as it was one of the few sources of the leaked SoC docs so i have kinda watched them for awhile and if anyone is going to get any real help from AML it would be from some one like him. I have a few of his boards here as well and there well put together.
Unfortunately, HK has made a number of serious mistakes recently, after which I do not consider their products as a good option (the rejection of the N1 in favor of the firm's AML, etc.). N2 is a slightly extended version of the usual TV box at an inflated price, and having a shitty cooling system, from which more problems than benefits and a number of other errors .
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thank you for your input, I know I did not start this thread but I too have been looking for a new box, after buying both the x99 and the Vero 4K+ and after buying a 4K TV my chromebox is a bit outdated for 4K, that said, I am not confident enough to test a Magicsee N6 Max RK3399, since like the x99 I did not see a img for the x99 (rk3399) here specifically for the x99 or the Magicsee N6 Max RK3399. So with just this thread and a couple of posts here and there I think I will test RockPro64, I will purchase the following:
ROCKPro64 Premium Aluminum Case
ROCKPro64 Slim Profile Graphene Heat Sink
ROCKPro64 board
12V/5A Power Supply (US Plug) and a
High Performance eMMC Module, I think that should do it. If anyone has anything to add, would truly appreciate any input.If you have a task, only watching videos via LE (and running Linux for a normal user), it is better to use the TV box. This is optimal in terms of costs and results. But if you plan to use this device for development or you will need additional options That dy boards have, then the choice of TV box is not justified.
To run LE on TV box you can try this version.
https://yadi.sk/d/ie_dx5x_w2xuiq
Please note that you need to use the correct DTB for proper operation. As part of your image there are a few DTB and you can try all of these files. To specify which DTB option to use , edit the file "/boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf" (specify the name of the DTB file).
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Can be not to pay attention on name images. These are universal images.
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Perhaps the Rock64 would be a better choice.. I'm beginning to get the impression that RK3399 will run too hot for LibreElec or other Linux distros with these smaller cases. What are the currently recommended rockchip SoC for 4k60fps?
If you have not yet chosen anything, today I tested Magicsee N6 Max RK3399 (4\32) with the latest version of LE. Everything is working - wired LAN, WiFi, BT, remote control. Start Linux (Armbian) - overall impression from speed work-positive. Neither of which retards when run from SD card.
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Would it be possible/practical to advise what has been added/modified between each of your builds with expected improvements?
Updated panfrost driver and kernel.
PS Is it possible to download latest tar into LibreELEC update folder and update then re-boot to update, without need to destroy previous build on SD with user settings saved etc (know I can create a back-up if not)
Starting LE is possible from any SD or USB media. Therefore, for tests, you can use any simple media on a USB flash drive. Or install in the eMMC checked the version of LE that works for you and to run the test images to use external media.
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New image 20190225
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New image ver 20190211
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Earlier there was information about chips rk3228H (ARM8 A53 aarch64) and rk3228B (ARM7 Cortex A7 arm). Maybe RK3228A is something close to RK3229 (Cortex A7) ?
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Update image ver 20190131 (update KODI)
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a Vega S95 box, hence:
Vega S95 = S905
Vega S96 = S912
Is it possible to overclock odroid C2?
It was possible to edit the boot.ini file and set max_freq to 1752.
Are these settings move into another config file or is it removed?
There are no such options in core 4 and core 5.
I noticed that CEC isn't working or do i need to enable it in extlinux.conf somewhere?
I didn't check CEC . I don't know what it takes on an Odroid C2. I've compiled the images for the Odroid C2 for trial only. The main image developer for Odroid C2 CvH. Try asking him.
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1. Is Rufus with the boot DD option in settings the best way to burn your images?
You may need to use different recording software on different operating systems (and versions). I can not guarantee the operation of one program on all versions of the OS.
Do we also need the label to be LIBREELEC?
Yes, all my images use the label, so the functions are installed in eMMC is based on the label.
2. Are there any tools to build custom JeOS images like the ones that you can share with us?
Sory I don't understand your question.
3. Is it possible to switch between HDMI and AV ports automatically, without having to update disp_cap via SSH every time?
How can the system know what it needs to use (If both outputs are available and can output sound.) ?
Tried latest build on M96X+ box with q201 dtb. It boots but without network. No wired no wireless no bluetooth.
Try all dtb options for gxm* group
I have the same device, I have a friend, but we couldn't.
We could not make this image nor Multi-boot can do.
However, I would like to use a kernel-based version of version 4 *.Without getting a log of the start process of the system (u-boot) from the console UART, no one will be able to help you. Do you know at what stage the error is ? I'm not psychic enough to guess it without a log or equipment.
do you have a S912 box on which your 4.x mainline (plus patch) kernel images run with a working network connection and USB? If so, can you please share (also pm are ok) which dts you use and the dmesg output after boot?
There is something to address here. Q201 dts use irq for phy link management, while apparently most of the box out there does not have it so polling shall be used. Also there are some box with ZTE phy that shall run default eth2 reg (the old cali_val attribute in 3.4.x amlogic kernel).
Are you interested in my s912 models on which I run LE or any Linux system ?
LE 4.20
Khadas VIM2 Basic 2\16 - work all (without BT)
Khadas VIM2 Max 3\64 - work all (without WiFi BT)
Tronsmart Vega S96 - work LAN USB remote control (no WiFi BT)
Also on these models works Armbian with kernel 5.0 (SD USB LAN no HW panfrost )
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1. Does installtointernal work on your latest LE kernel 4.xx build ? ( A recent comment said that the proprietary Amlogic formatting doesn't work on kernel 4.xx.)
This script is no longer in my builds. Instead, a new version of the installation system through the GUI. All operations can now be performed without the use of SSH, by standard controls from KODI. There is a special menu in Libreelec Settings (create\restore a full copy of eMMC and install LE in eMMC).
Pay attention. The new installation system only works with the new multi-boot option. Ie before installing to eMMC should be upgraded multi-boot to the latest version using the captured image, using toothpicks or from the Android menu (everything needed is in the part of the image, neither of which is download additional is not necessary). The installation system saves all important data from the standard firmware and allows you to later restore the standard Android (firmware) by conventional means of USB Burn Tool. Importantly. All the tests I conduct when using the regular eMMC firmware Android how it will work (or even work) setting when placed in eMMC other systems (Libreelec Armbian etc) I don't know. Perhaps in some cases it will work, but I do not give any guarantees.
Importantly. Be sure to create a full backup of the eMMC using the menu items before installing it on the eMMC and keep the backup in a safe place (it is located in the /backup/ddbr directory). This will restore the system to its exact state at the time of the copy.
2. How about audio support with HDMI and with AV connection? I am a bit confused.
HDMI sound works in all images. AV-will appear as far as possible.
You have just uploaded an image today. What did you change?
Changed repositories Addons LE. Now all images (arm, aarch64) uses the repository chewitt.
