Display MoreRPI4@2160p@60Hz/59.94Hz->X3800H->OLED83C37LA: same beahavior: 4/5 to 6/7 of time; no signal
RPI5@2160p@60Hz/59.94Hz->X3800H->OLED83C37LA: same beahavior: 4/5 to 6/7 of time: no signal
RPI4@2160p@30Hz/29.97Hz->X3800H->OLED83C37LA: no problems
RPI5@2160p@30Hz/29.97Hz->X3800H->OLED83C37LA: no problems
Settlings like" hdmi_force_hotplug=1" in config.txt also have no effects.
Are you able to test directly to TV without the Denon? I can do so when I get home later.
With resolution set to 3840x2160 @ 30FPS, I have not had this issue occur once in the last 2 weeks. The UI is more sluggish but its not slow. I always use 'adjust display refresh rate' on start/stop as well.
There's a problem with 60FPS output, how do we work out if its a Denon problem or a Pi problem though.... Could run directly into the TV for a while I suppose but this may be a false test as I won't be passing through DTS/Dolby HD etc.
Display MoreI bet our Denon-Receivers are the problem.
I didnt hear so far from other Receiver-Brands with simlilar Problems.But who knows.
In my case an apple-tv-4k +Infuse does display-like a perfect job in 3840x2160@60hz+dv.
So because of this, its actually also possible the the Pi does something wrong...
(But with an apple-tv-4k you can actually forget audio-passthrough. Its not possible.
You only have the option converted everything PCM, stay at DD 5.1 or even Stereo.
Dolby Atmos works only with content that has E-AC3 with joint Object Coding so far.)Staying at 3840x2160@30hz is a valid solution for the problem.
Changing constantly refresh-rate&resolution if i stay at 1920x1080x30hz is not a solution for me
As there is a better resizing algorithm for the pi5 on the road the better upscaling capability might not be an argument anymore to stay at 1080p and let the receiver/tv rescale.
I bet its the raspberry Pi to be honest.... Denon receivers are a long standing top selling AV product. I bet theres far less people forcing 60Hz output on raspberry Pi's than there are Denon users with standard AV equipment.
The problem is clearly 60Hz output.
What could be the reason?
It’s faultless with 4k and 30hz set. I have adjust display refresh to start stop.
Does the GUI resolution limit not achieve this even when the output is set to 4K?
I have just tested this at 30FPS and confirm the issue no longer occurs so this is specific to 60FPS output.
None of the previous settings have worked for me. Infact they have made it worse.
What video mode should I be setting my Denon to. Enhanced etc….?
I might try 30fps for the UI and see if that works like you say.
Switching to AUX2 on my Denon AVR-X3600H has not solved this problem.
I have just added hdmi_force_hotplug=1 to config.txt and will see what that does.
I had the exact same problem as described in the first post. My setup is Pi 5 8GB connected to Denon AVR X2800HDAB connected to Sony Bravia XR55A80L. If the Pi source was selected/active on Denon while booting up Pi everything worked fine. As soon as I changed the source on Denon and then tried to get back to Pi I would not get video (No signal) in 50+% cases. Audio, on the other hand, worked (I could hear UI sounds).
That was the case as long as I had Pi connected to CBL/SAT or Media Player HDMI input on Denon. Moving Pi to AUX1 or AUX2 HDMI input (two of three 8K ports on Denon), for some reason, solved the issue. Switching to Pi source now works flawlessly.
I'm running Pi at 3840x2160, 60Hz with this added to the cmdline.txt:
Codevideo=HDMI-A-1:3840x2160M@60D,margin_left=0,margin_right=0,margin_top=0,margin_bottom=0In addition to that, I added the following to the config.txt:
Codehdmi_force_hotplug=1 disable_overscan=1
I will try this, namely changing to one of the other inputs, I am using CBL/SAT.
If that doesn’t do it I’ll add those hdmi hot plug and overscan lines to my config.
If changing the input alone does this, I wonder what’s special about those on Denon AVRs.
I can confirm that this no-signal issue still occurs with a Pi5. I am running 60fps.
Are there any other options we can enable in the config.txt.
Do I need to dump and fix the EDID?
Ive just got my Pi5 to replace my 4 and am setting it up as we speak. I am using a direct micro HDMI to HDMI cable (HDMI 2.0).
I am running 60FPS, I will report back.
Hi all, I have a small issue where upon turning on my TV/AVR (Pi is on 24/7), I have to change away from and back to the RPi source in order to get a signal. AVR is a Denon AVR-X 3600H.
If the RPi has been idle for sometime, and my Denon AVR starts up with the TV input selected (usually use the TV remote power button to turn on), changing to the RPi/LE source results in 'No Signal'.... I then change the source to something else, then back to the RPi/LE and I have signal. I have CEC enabled on the TV, AVR and the Pi. I usually use the TV's power button on remote to turn the TV and AVR on/off in one. Kodi will switch the AVR source and control volume via CEC, I understand it doesn't turn off or on with it though which is fine.
Any ideas what the cause of this is? A setting on the RPi? Or something on the Denon AVR? Its not the end of the world, but is slightly annoying and takes away from the 'slickness' of my living room media set up having to do the remote juggle.
UPDATE:
This issue still occurs even with a Pi5 running LE 12. Also, switching sources no longer appears to get me a display at 60Hz. Like others in this thread, I am able to get a 60Hz output, but once the AVR is turned off, when I turn it back on I will see no signal until the Rpi is rebooted.
I see that some with the AVR-X3800H report that AUX 1 and 2 inputs work fine @4K60, but all of the other inputs exhibit the same behaviour as above.
I can confirm on my AVR-X3600H, that the same is not true for my AUX 1 and 2 ports. They behave the same as the others.
RPi4/5 support HDR10, but not the dynamic version HDR10+ .. otherwise I agree
Sorry, thats what I meant.
To be fair, the difference between SDR content and 'base' HDR10 content is so massive that it makes me wonder if DV or HDR10+ is actually worth caring about at all.
The reason I started this thread is because I recently bought a £3K Sony 77" Bravia OLED TV and wanted to know if I am missing out on 'experience'.
Ive been a long time happy user of LE/Kodi on a Pi4 8GB. The audio/video support is second to NONE. The buffering/cache options are great for smoothing out the experience for non local content and it just works.
I started my journey with LE, with a USB HDD connected to the Pi4. I then changed to an FTP/S backend with a server (in a datacenter), but still with local library. Today I run a Jellyfin server on 13th Gen intel hardware with a massive drive array etc... in a datacenter and use the Jellyfin Kodi plugin to sync the libraries.
LE on a Pi4 in my experience DESTROYS everything else I have tried, including the Nvidia Shield TV Pro (which people rave on about)... Yes it does DV, but the hardware is dated, its underpowered and doesn't have enough RAM for high bitrate content.
I am awaiting delivery of a Pi 5 8GB which I plan to make my main media center system and retire the Pi4 to the bedroom.
In short.... There doesn't appear to be one single perfect device out there which supports everything.... But the best around in my opinion is certainly LibreElec on the Pi 4 (and hopefully 5).
No Dolby Vision or HDR10+? Meh.... I don't think im missing out on much at this point.
The fan in the Argon case is to noisy even at low speeds, i ditched mine and put on a Noctua 40 mm 5V connected to 3,3V GPIO, it spins all the time but its quiet and temp never goes over 40C.
Can you share details on the fan and your installation job?
Pi4 4GB with a Hifiberry or similar DAC HAT with RCA outs.
Job done.
Unless you have a fast Intel CPU device; leave it at the default (1080) setting.
Is this operating at 60fps?
Whats the correct settings for getting the UI to render at 1080p/60FPS when on a 4K TV?
I notice the bottom menu option says Unlimited/1080 > 30FPS.
What does this actually mean? Do I need to select that to go faster than 30 FPS? But won't that allow rendering at 4K?
This is already implemented via HDMI CEC. If I turn TV off, Kodi detects this via CEC and sends suspend signal to system immediately (no delay). Wakeup is much more complex, since it depends on SoC and its drivers. Whole procedure once worked on Allwinner SoCs (except R40), but wakeup via CEC is currently broken for some reason...
In other words, sleep part is already implemented, but you don't want it if wakeup part isn't implemented and here is the issue - only some platforms implements that.
Pi4 AFAIK doesn't have power management implemented in kernel.
This is correct, I have noticed that the system is suspended upon TV standby via HDMI CEC. But will not wake up, thus requiring a manual reset of the Pi4.
I take it the suspend function via CEC can be disabled via the CEC adapter in the peripherals menu?
