Posts by ht2tweak

You did it 🎉👏! Tested the new build w/several 3D MVC MKV's and now PQ w/"Use limited color range (16-235)" at its default (off) = RPi5's! Except...

Kodi Build: 22.0-BETA2 (21.90.802) Git:22.0b2-Piers
Operating System: Linux v.7.2.4 (Linux-7.2.4-x86_64-with-glibc2.44)
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Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H with Radeon Graphics
Machine Architecture: x86_64 64bit 
Logical CPU Cores (including Hyperthreading if applicable): 16
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Python: CPython v.3.14.7
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... my Beelink w/Ryzen 7 5800H has about 2.25 times the performance. And, I can feel the power, snappiness difference... in fact, it's the fastest Kodi box I have now. We wouldn't have AMD 3D w/o popcornmix's RPi5/4 3D, but I may be using AMD more. Definitely keeping and using RPi5 as well, and maybe move it to a secondary media room w/a 3D UST projector. Of course, for those who don't already have an AMD-based PC, given hardware prices these days (bought mine for ~$350 in 2023, and now it's ~$590 😱), RPi5 would be more wallet-friendly and more than good enough.

BTW, my BT issue is solved... needed to disable BT under LE settings > services, then enable it back.

Quote from vobs

I just changed the display colour settings on the Zidoo from 'Priority YUV444 10BIT' to 'Priority RGB444 8BIT' for non-4K, and I think this made all the difference - thanks a lot

Yes, this did make a difference w/my Zidoo as well, but RPi5 and AMD still have sharper 3D, and more pop than Zidoo. I'd say RPi5 and AMD would be A++, Zidoo using Priority RGB444 8BIT for non-4K an A, and Amlogic-based h/w-decoding boxes a B+.

Quote from NTM-3D

I saw that ht2tweak had luck with Money from Home but when I try to play it from the menu I just get this box telling me I need a 3D TV, while the menu is playing in 3D Playing directly from the playlist works fine.

Same here with 'Money from Home', but if you choose the 2D version, the 3D one plays.

Quote from popcornmix

Need a few more details. What is the frame rate of a video with judder? What is the frame rate the kodi is outputting at?

If these are both 24, then this is a projector issue we can't help with. If kodi is driving 60Hz (and projector reports support of 24), then we can look into that.

All 23.976 3D MVC MKV's. Kodi is outputting correctly as 23.98. Titan Noir Max, like most DLP projectors are native 60Hz, and they recently implemented 24p for 2D, but not 3D. Us owners are waiting on XGIMI to fix this for 3D, but it isn't high priority for them. I was just wondering if "Allow double refresh rates" and/or "Allow 3:2 pulldown" might help w/motion judder. I'll try them out and report back.

Talking about RPi4 overclocking, worth doing w/RPi5?

Great find! Are you saying now Zidoo PQ w/Priority RGB444 8BIT is on par w/Pi5 and (I assume) AMD will be as well w/limited colour range (16-235) enabled?

Question on BT. Was unsure where to ask, but doing so here in case it may be related to this build. So, my Beelink SER5 Mini PC w/AMD Ryzen 7 5800H has built-in Bluetooth, but under LE, do I need to do something to see it?

[SOLVED] Disabling BT under Services, then re-enabling fixed the issue.

Excellent insights, thanks. With full rez 3D content, Pi's appears sharper. vobs and another user on AVSForum concurred when he tested as well. But, AMD's is as good as Zidoo's, and that's saying a lot.

Don't hold me on the PQ comments; just initial impressions. I need to test thoroughly. Given neither Pi5 nor this AMD solution rely on h/w MVC decoder, in theory, given 1's and 0's, PQ should be identical I'd think.

BTW, also tried your build on an Intel N150 mini PC for the heck of it, and it didn't boot.

Would be good to know if that made the difference for him.

Thanks for the latest build. Question on this:

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Enable "Allow double refresh rates" and "Allow 3:2 pulldown" as 3D modes are often only have 50/60Hz and not 25/30Hz.

My projector is currently doing 6:4 cadence for 3D vs 5:5. And its MEMC function does nothing in 3D mode. Would one of the new options you added potentially help with the motion judder present in 3D?

May want to read this about RPi4. Another option based on popcornmix's work is now also as good an option.

Hey cinemaONE, thank you for incorporating popcornmix's 3D work into the dev/test build you shared!

So, I am getting perfect 3D playback now! 3D MVC MKV's, 3D ISO's with and w/o menus, FSBS, HSBS and HTAB movies and samples I tested all played perfectly. No stuttering, PQ almost as good as RPi5's, and menus working well! Choosing to install LE to an internal NVMe SSD (vs. USB stick) made a world of difference in making my Beelink SER5 a snappy, buttery smooth LE/Kodi use. Feels a little faster than RPi5. On PQ, need to do more testing (as I may not be recalling well), but RPi's picture seems the sharpest to me, with Zidoo media players and AMD like mine next, then followed by AmLogic boxes w/MVC decoding.

BTW, I did not have to whitelist anything... 3D just worked.

I'm so thrilled we have yet another excellent full 3D playback hardware option! And that we don't have to fuss w/Windows to enjoy :).

Menus working:

Playback from menu:

Settings:

Enjoying full 3D:

If it makes sense to start a new thread, let's do so, or if one exists for 3D, please point me there.

Just tested on my Beelink SER5 mini PC. Good news: All 3D formats work! Cool! Just like RPi5 ... but, man, is this PC sluggish as heck running LE. Maybe because I installed to a USB stick? 3D played, but lots of stuttering and freezing, and LE/Kodi use is painful. Ran CPU benchmark:

Kodi Build: 22.0-BETA2 (21.90.802) Git:22.0b2-Piers
Operating System: Linux v.7.2.4 (Linux-7.2.4-x86_64-with-glibc2.44)
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Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H with Radeon Graphics
Machine Architecture: x86_64 64bit 
Logical CPU Cores (including Hyperthreading if applicable): 16
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Python: CPython v.3.14.7
Benchmark: pystone v.1.1 n=50000
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This score is 575% better than the Cube2 I'm using for 3D as well, and 127% better than RPi5. So, what gives :)?

Makes sense. If there's a separate build like one I assume cinemaONE tried, happy to test it. If not, I'll wait.

Thanks. I can just try LE off a USB stick and see if 3D works. Which build should I try? I assume popcornmix's work hasn't made it into official stable or nightly yet.

Would this work on a Beelink SER5 w/Ryzen 7 5800H & integrated Radeon graphics?

Quote from popcornmix

Updated builds in first post. Hopeful improvements:

Enable Blu-Ray menu in more places (e.g. context-menu/Choose playlist/Show Blu-ray menu)

Significantly better BD menu handling. Only have a handful of full 3D ISO's (just 5; small sample size), but menus work well on all but 2. Logs here for those; w/one playback froze after choosing a title, and w/other, like before, title played in odd SBS format. Same title will play in proper over/under if I choose it directly from Kodi chooser.

Other 3D ISO's show menus/submenus perfectly, and chosen titles play perfectly:

Glad I'm not crazy to have thought so :). It was immediate for me when I first tested popcornmix's build; there was a bit of a wow factor. Forget which 3D title, but recall the opening studio logo having more of a punch, then of course the actual movie.

Ah nice, I can use that with my cheapo Amazon remote clones and CE + LE boxes.

Quote from popcornmix

I do still own a 3D capable TV

Was thinking you need to invest in a 3D-capable projector :). Best way to enjoy 3D — anyway big, immersive screen is the way to go — and there are so many good options now.

Quote from popcornmix

So the important point is whether it's been scanned to library. library items line direct to feature, not menu.
I'll probably go with (2) so you get back the option of playing the menu.

That works, thanks. Again, not a biggie for those of us who don't care about menus. But, there are menu fans out there.

Quote from popcornmix

Can you provide a debug log when playing from files? Claude would appreciate it.

Here it is (w/component level logging). So, I am seeing the same ISO behavior w/Xioami Box S 3rd Gen using CE22, so wondering if this is a Kodi 22 change. With CE21, I always get chooser with the two '3D Rarities' ISOs:

But, with last LE 3D build and CE22, even if using Files view, as soon as I choose ISO, no chooser, rather plays main title directly:

Odd this behavior only happens w/the two '3D Rarities' ISOs I have, but I get chooser w/the other couple 3D menu ISOs I have.

Quote from Da Flex

Stay cool, it's bleeding edge software development right now.

For sure :).

Quote from vobs

But wait wait wait!!! I Think I found it: Just went through all the projector settings again and switched "HDMI LINK" ON. And boom! Not one single glitch since then (the movie has been playing for 10 minutes now - fingers crossed...). Why this?

Sounds like it's something specific w/the Sim2.

Gaining new fans at AVS :).