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- You're so missing the point (which is your prerogative entirely) and spreading mis-information (which bothers me).
Most (all?) VPN providers push their DNS settings on connect and change it back on disconnect. The way this is done is documented in the openvpn manual. I think you should google exactly what happens when you connect a VPN, what the dns leak issues were and how they were solved. If you don't want to google, don't...makes no difference to me, I understand this stuff.
If you want to change what the VPN provider has done, you can modify it using up/down scripts. And you can change the DNS server used outside of the VPN using the existing LE interface. I've told you this already. How to use up/down scripts with the add-on is documented on the wiki. How to use up/down scripts is documented in the openvpn manual. There are many examples of up/down scripts out there if you google for some.
Personally, I use my ISPs DNS settings, and my VPN provider (being competent) automatically changes this for me on a system by system basis. If I'm on a Windows machine, the add-on takes advantage of a particular parameter to avoid the particular DNS leak issue that was an issue on that platform. I absolutely disagree with you that I have a DNS leak.
Of course, you're free to continue to argue that this add-on should manipulate DNS servers, and you're free to change it - I really am not interested what you do. But please stop making incorrect and misleading statements about the way VPNs work.
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Will the up/down scripts allow for automation of using DNS servers during the update on nordvpn ovpn files?
This is what started things off I wanted to automate changing DNS during this process.
So while I am "misinforming" about DNS Leaks or not I still would like to do this in an automated fashion.
I personally don't care if it is a permanent fork or you accept a pull for it.
I have googled DNS Leaks to be honest there are so many people claiming to be experts but yet they and many of them still claim you should set your DNS servers manually and clear any other DNS servers for safety.
As far as windows goes I tested it with IPLeak and DNSLeak.
In order to get a leak proof machine one of the things I had to change was a browser setting, another thing I had to change was a IPV4 on windows and on my router and finally the last thing I had to change was my DNS servers! And would you know it I had no leaks after that point so I mean if something changed since I ran into that issue about 6 months ago I guess I haven't really kept up to date.
On one hand I have NordVPN being pretty flamboyant about changing your DNS servers and in the correspondence with them through email over the last week they also mentioned the fact that you can push any DNS server using OPENVPN the open source version as well as their software so I don't doubt for the most part you are right. Like I said before it is not a matter of me being right here I appreciate the input.
Is it misinformation though that leaks may still be possible and it is good practice to change your DNS servers manually? I really do not know for sure this is where the jury is still out for me I suppose you seem to be certain but how do I know that LE is not going to add something to make media playing easier that will possibly cause a leak in the future.
There are a number of things with this whole OPENVPN that I do not find right that deserve attention and discussion.
This is one of them.
The other is pairing with providers of content.
The other is how people post logs to pastebin which contain way too much personal information if people are unaware and don't actually read through them and scrub the data there is a lot of information that is given away. I wouldn't doubt if this is how people snatch up IPTV subs at times.
You have your concerns that I am being overly cautious and I have my concerns that the lack of awareness and the lack of informing people to do things like scrub their logs before posting them, set their DNS as an extra safety precaution, and not to use things like pairing for media providers is hardly every mentioned if at all. When malicious websites adopt the policy of delaying website response to the user computer thus resulting in the browser switching to an unsecured DNS. Meanwhile, the newer Windows OS has a few in-built features which increase its susceptibility to DNS leaks. Smart Multi-Homed Name Resolution featured in windows 8.1 and windows 10 was one of them if memory serves me right...
I will note I will upgrade my last post to include the word potentially to put things into perspective.
I am most positive I do not know everything about everything and this is where we should all remain and I may say something wrong that needs correction at times and I thank you for it you are always welcome to correct me and educate me and the public all at the same time I believe I learned a bit more about OpenVPN just by reading a bit.
You have your concerns about me misinforming I have my concerns about things not being cautious enough do to the mass amounts of conflicting information on this issue.
Update: I will likely just solve the DNS issue with a quick cheap switch during the download process from what I can see many of these providers on the list do NOT share the information as public and have "smartdns" or whatever they wish to call it if you ask me it is all somewhat sketchy as these providers likely host their DNS on a 3rd party server on a non physical server like a VPS or something of that nature. So that brings me to question sure your providers logging policy is "WE DONT LOG" but what about the people hosting the VPS server?
One possibly interesting alternative OpenNIC Project
Personally I like the pirate bays founders current initiative of being the man in the middle for Domain Name Registration you can register a Domain with their service and they will keep your information private at all costs they will refuse to give away your information and will assume all liabilities incurred by the domain itself from my understanding. Njalla — A privacy aware domain registration service
It is pretty wild I am glad there are a lot of privacy advocates out their protecting the freedoms that the internet was founded on the ability to share information is constantly being attacked we need all the people we can to build up every possible avenue of encapsulating measures to keep things private i would love to see things reach a point where privacy can not be legislated away on the client side of things and things thus far are moving in that direction I'd like to see https replaced with something a bit more intuitive on this front as well as processing power has become a bit stronger and maybe functional with something like DNS crypt to really ensure privacy as it stands right now DNSCrypt is not a replacement for a VPN, as it only authenticates DNS traffic, and doesn't prevent third-party DNS resolvers from logging your activity. By design, the TLS protocol, as used in HTTPS and HTTP/2, leaks websites host names in plain text, so DNSCrypt is not enough to hide this information but it would be nice if their were a protocol developed with it that does aside from VPN that works in conjunction with DNSCrypt.
Not to get too crazy but at this point I'm feeling a lot like you I believe due to all these factors I think it is quite possibly a non issue although I am not aware if DNScrypt is used if supported by default with OpenVPN I haven't done enough reading but it seems to me that the design of DNScrypt would be an advantage for providers to use implicitly. The local network is usually weak against attacks like DNS spoofing. The DNSCrypt server can run on your router (I know tomato,and DDWRT support it), along with the typical DNS resolver. Devices can then run the client code of DNSCrypt, leveraging the router DNS resolver.
So to sum everything up YOU ARE CORRECT and I believe that people should set their router DNS as something other than their ISP's initially for optimal safety. Just as you said it is hard to say what VPN providers come along and what they do and how technically adept they may be initially. I kind of side with setting the DNS of your router than something other than just your ISP's heck use openDNS or opennic.org even after reading about googles new policies I likely will not be using googles DNS servers.