hmm.... Setting playback(GUI settings) to 1080p for HD content(when 444, 10bit), has the same affect as setting 444,8bit....
So there is some kind of color upmix going on, So is it LE or my TV???
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Done some more testing... My TV is now calibrated with 444, 10bit, Switching to 8bit, the colors are under-saturated, and the white balance is way off. I could recalibrate with 8bit, but since LE wont autoswitch to 10bit, than 10bit content will be wrong. So by sticking with 10bit every thing's OK
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Ok, you/I misunderstood..;) You can use the same calibration for HD & UHD but not HDR.
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If I don't set 10bit, than everything is played as 8bit.
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What 4K non-HDR calibration videos do you have?
I just run my GUI at 4K and don't bother with it.
But ok, whatever works best for you. I have an LG, so maybe they behaves differently.
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How do you know? With LE 8.2.2.2 I see no difference in color between the box and the TV's built in player for HDR content. With LE 8.2.1.1 there was a significant difference between 10 bit and 8 bit output from the box.
This means that 10 bit works just fine now. Make sure that you're running the latest LE 8.2.2.3 build.
I'm running the latest build, and if i don't set 444.10bit, my AVR/TV reports 444 8bit;)
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HD and UHD are resolutions. So are 2160P (aka 4K) and 1080P.
I assume that when Kodi GUI is at 4K you get BT.2020 label on the HDMI input info, but in 1080P you don't?
I suggest you remove the 444 10bit entry from autostart.sh and see if that fixes it.
SDR should look the same, regardless of content or GUI resolution. There is no benefit forcing 10 bit out of the box for SDR content.
Let me try to clarify...:)
If I set my GUI to 1080p, and uses a 1080p calibaration-video to calibarate my TV, than 1080p video's are perfect... But videos at 2160p (none HDR) are not.
If I set my GUI to 20160p, and uses a 1080p(read playback in 2160p)-calibaration video to calibarate my TV, than 1080p video's are perfect and 2160p video's are perfect.
Now this could have something to do with that i'm using 10bit and the way Samsung handle's the signal, but since My TV handles 1080p 10bit different from 2160p 10bit... Well.....;) But i'l do some test to see if the source is the 8/10bit. But as long as there is no auto-switch to 10bit, than.....:)
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HD and UHD are resolutions. So are 2160P (aka 4K) and 1080P.
I assume that when Kodi GUI is at 4K you get BT.2020 label on the HDMI input info, but in 1080P you don't?
I suggest you remove the 444 10bit entry from autostart.sh and see if that fixes it.
SDR should look the same, regardless of content or GUI resolution. There is no benefit forcing 10 bit out of the box for SDR content.
That may be, but autoswitch to 10bit don't work:(
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In one word: What?
Most of what you said makes no sense. 2160P and 1080P are resolutions. "UHD" usually refers to 2160P or 4K resolution.
Either way, I have yet to test this with a meter, but it looks like with the latest builds 10 bit is now automatically enabled when you play a HDR10 video. Thus, there's no need to set 444 10 bit anymore.
After some more testings..., It could have something to do with the way my TV handles HD & UHD regarding colorspace. Calibrating my TV in 1080p than setting are all wrong playing UHD(non hdr) content, but if i calibarate it in 2160p and set GUI to 2160p than colors are perfect for both HD(upscaled to UHD) and UHD(non hdr) content. When sett to UHD, my TV info reports UHD Color!?!?! So i thing this is why there is a differens. But what Samsung means with UHD color, I don't know;)
ps. In simple terms; The problem is i can't calibrate my TV for both HD and UHD, but my TV handle's HD & UHD diferently:)
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Exactly. I will have to test this on my Vizio and see what it does, but LG does seem to behave this way when you enable 10 bit 444 output.
It's a bit frustrating. When 10bit is not enabled, and I play HDR10 content, even though the TV switches into HDR/BT.2020 mode, color saturation is lacking. I made side by side comparison by playing the same content with the internal player. Once I switched 10bit 444 on, the color saturation is the same with HDR, but then SDR is oversaturated. So the only workaround I came up with is to enable 10bit 444 when I want to watch a HDR movie, and then switch back to 8bit 444. A bit of a pain.
The only thing you achieve by doing that is screw with how the TV displays normal SDR content.
1. You can't do that by eye with accurate results.
2. This will screw up SDR for other sources if you use the same picture setting across sources.
3. Why would I want to do that?
4. HDR is not overrated at all. It highly depends on the content you watch, and the quality and the capabilities of your display.
Some movies are just not that much different to their SDR counterparts.
Is there any way to determine the type of content being player (ie. SDR/BT.709 or HDR/BT.2020) and automatically switch 10bit 444 on and off during the automatic resolution/refresh rate switch? Not being able to do this right now is probably a low priority, but I think that in the long run it's an important one. Please see my reply to mike in this post.
And another, unrelated, question. I use live TV with the IPTV PVR addon. Now this addon only supports a single playlist.
There's a fork of the IPTV addon, which allows using up to ten playlists. This would be a very useful addition (perhaps optional? I don't know) to your already great builds. Here's what I'm talking about: pvr.iptvsimple/pvr.iptvsimple at master · AndreyPavlenko/pvr.iptvsimple · GitHub
Ok, my TV uses the same profile for HD/UHD, but has it's one profile for HDR.
So when the settinhg are right for HD, then UHD(none HDR) is wrong.
Did som testings whith a Spyder5(screen calibaration) and if calibarate my tv(useing calibaration vidio's played from kodi)
in 2160p, than the whitebalance and colors are perfect bothe for HD and UHD when played in 2160p.
If I calibarete it in 1080p, then UHD is way off.
So I State my claim, 2160p is the way tho go:)
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thanks i installed and test but it does not recognise the press of keys of the tv remote ,i dont know why?
Not all keys are sent over CEC, try another key and see if it works.
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Dumb, but how do you get a UHD rip?? thanks I am just moving up to BlueRay rips.
BDR-XD06J-UHD Pioneer Ultra HD Blu-ray Portable USB 4K Bluray Drive;)
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You will be missed!;)
Libre El'dick!!
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The transcoded AC3 5.1 why better then the original PCM 5.1 or 7.1?
No, PCM is better, but PCM 5.1 wont be trancecoden anyway;) But if you have ACC 5.1 and settings to 2.0, ACC is pasthrough as Dolby Digital 5.1, if settings are not 2.0 it's sent as PCM 7.1(missing 2 channels), and this messes up the DTS-X / Dolby Digital upmix on 7.1 systems.
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I can get DTS HD MA, and Dolby TrueHD PT with 7.1 channel settings.
If you set it to 2.0 you will get 2 channels only when watching a PCM multichannel video.
If yout set it to 7.1 you get all the channels.
Also if you set 2.0 you can also select AC3 transkoding, so anything that can be wrapped into ac3 5.1 will also work;)
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It is just a question of screen size and viewing distance. We watch a 60" tv from 2m and even my wife can tell the difference between 4k and fullhd.
I want a wife like that! Where can i get one??
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i've got a h96 pro plus i installed the latest le from this post and dtb. Kodi is running fine but 4k hdr videos have problems and stuttering.
Anyone who could tell me specific config options or a way to get it work?
could be your slow network;)
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Anyone?
Did you wait until the download was finished before rebooting?
