Posts by flintrpi

Quote from Reddirt

I confess I still own a VCR but it's stashed deep in a closet somewhere. All our VHS tapes and DVDs were transferred to disc a decade ago. You still using a dial style telly as well?

LOL. Might as well be! I'm still using the old (11-12 years?) 50" LG Plasma that sports a ton of inputs, including 2 composite, 2 component, and VGA in addition to the 3 HDMIs. No current sets have that much I/O anymore. This thing croaks I'm going to have to rethink the whole thing.

Quote from VLouis

When I had the same issue the solution was to save the display data using the command "getedid create" (SSH).

So... The same damned thing happened again. The HDMI output was off and no amount of rebooting, unplugging, replugging, nothing helped. This time, rather than swap back to the earlier version, I followed your advice, but with HDMI in the off state. Nonetheless, it created the override, I rebooted, and it's been rock-solid ever since. Thank you so much!

Quote from Reddirt

Re: VCR still connected

Hey ya never know when Rocky XX might come out on VHS right?

Still have a pile of home videos shot on VCR. Have an even bigger pile of miniDV tapes and no SCSI ports.

Quote from LybsterKodi

Fully agree with chewitt and would also add having two devices connected to a TV via HDMI can cause grief.

I've had three connected for years. A bluray, a roku, and the RPi. I mean like a lotta years, since RPi 1. (and 2, and a W, and now 3 since it came out. Have a 4, but never hooked it up.) Never had a problem until LibreELEC 11 and loading new add-ons.

Would actually like a new TV, 4K, but they don't have as many ports anymore. Besides HDMI, my old one has composite and component inputs. Fiber and digital audio out. Sony receiver with surround & 5 speakers (live in apartment, so in deference to neighbors didn't add subwoofer). Still keep a VCR hooked up.

UPDATE:

Okay. So, I still haven't learned an SSH command that will turn the HDMI on or off (I was only interested in the "on" part), but I may not need that now. (Although, still would like to learn how, if anyone knows.)

To recap the problem: I had been powering down the RPi because it kept turning the TV on after I shut it off. One time when I powered it back up, there was no HDMI signal, though "top" showed it was up and running, with Kodi. Multiple reboots & power cycles did nothing. Pulling the SD and putting in an older version worked fine, and then putting the new one back ALSO worked fine, as if nothing had happened.

My suspicion was that something was unnecessarily calling the CEC routine.

Considering how rarely HDMI got shut off (just the once in a few dozen cycles) I was seeking a solution to just turn it on. Instead, I was forced to do things the right way and solve the CEC problem.

Which, honestly, I'm probably not smart enough to do, but I figured I could isolate it. So here's what I tried:

Disable all the video addons, reboot, and then power off the tv (not the RPi) and wait. That worked. It stopped popping back on.

So, then it was a process of enabling those addons to see which one was the culprit. I did that. The answer was surprising.

None of them! However, despite that they were all set to autoupdate, it looks like disable/enable forced some updates I wasn't getting. TL/DR: It's fine now.

Quote from VLouis

2. Turning the TV back on:

You could have some "unwanted" reboots (RPi power issue?) and it's activated in the CEC settings to wake up the display at the LE boot. (Settitings - System - Input - Peripherals - CEC - "Devices to power on during startup")

Power seems fine, and it's not rebooting. Something is tweaking CEC, though. I'm seeing popup Simplink notifications periodically. Been going through all the installed addons, and not seeing anything obvious. I don't want to have uninstall everything one by one to see if it gets fixed.

Quote from adam.h.

Unless you are waiting for some ritual of ash and dust begging?

Fresh out of ashes and dust. I thought it was a legit question. I've noticed it asked in other places, with other answers that don't work on LibreELEC.

While I'd obviously be thankful if anyone has the answer, for now I think I'm going to try to track down what is tweaking CEC periodically, which has the effect of turning my tv back on. That way, I won't have to power down the RPi and risk a recurrence of "No Signal" when I power it back up.

Quote from VLouis

Do you tried to reboot (or power cycle) the RPi when the TV is switched to that HDMI input (displaying the "no signal" message)?

Yes, absolutely. Again, this only happened the one time, when I cut power to it while it was streaming something, although that just could have been coincidence. Been careful to only cut power since then with nothing streaming. Again, though, that could be entirely irrelevant. I never had to cut power with my LibreELEC 9.2.8 setup, but the 11 setup keeps turning the set back on after I've turned it off. Something is cycling CEC and I can't figure out what, and given my beginner skill set, I'm not likely to. So, it would be nice if there was a command line I could enter from a putty session to reenable HDMI if this happens again.

Thanks for the response.

Quote from VLouis

When I had the same issue the solution was to save the display data using the command "getedid create" (SSH).

Thanks.

Will that work when the display signal is off? One problem I'm having is that with whatever it is I installed in Kodi addons with this new (for me) build of 11, it keeps cycling the TV back on a couple minutes after I've turned it off (probably with CEC/Simplink), so I've been powering down the RPi. With 9, I just left it on 24/7. If I could figure out what's doing that, I could just disable that.

So far, though, this has only happened to me once in perhaps 30 on/off cycles. I'd really like some definitive way to poke HDMI back to life when it happens again, if such a method exists.

Quote from popcornmix

No. There is no command that disables hdmi and remembers it (other that manually editing configuration files).

I found it quite baffling that rebooting LibreELEC 11, even after powering down, would not turn the HDMI back on. But swapping* out 11 for 9.x turned it back on, and then swapping back to 11 found it still on. Doesn't that suggest that it couldn't have been the config file?

But, whatever. That's not important right now. Here's the main question: Is there a command that works in LibreELEC to turn the rpi's HDMI port on or off? I'm barely competent in linux, but I can use putty and follow instructions.

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*- By "swapping" I mean physically changing the SD card, pulling one for the other.

Recently managed to disable the HDMI port on my RPI 3 while running LibreELEC 11 and Kodi 20. I cut power while it was in the middle of streaming and the next time I turned it back on, putty showed it was up and Kodi was loaded and running, but there was no HDMI signal. Start/Stop Kodi did nothing, as did soft and hard reboots. I pulled the SD and popped in my previous version (9.2.8) and the screen came back on. Swapped back to 11 and it was still on.

SO, it's obvious this is a command to the chip that turns it off or on. And it remembers. I found a suggestion that you can turn it on or off in some version of Linux with a command "rpi-hdmi on" and "rpi-hdmi off," but those clearly don't work with LibreELEC.

Anyone know if there's command control of the hdmi state for LibreELEC? I don't want to be swapping SD cards if I do this again. It'd be nice to be able just tell it via putty to turn it back on.