I assume this means I could format the drive as EXT4 on the Libreelec machine by accessing the command interface?
Or just boot from USB a live-linux (ex. any Ubuntu flavour) and use the GParted GUI.
Posts by VLouis
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Is there a fix or an older version of libreelec that doesn't have this problem?
Hi, unfortunately perfect solution isn't exist (yet?). It's few options you can try (if you want).
Older LE version. The huge advantage of the RPi is running OS from a SD card. So, take an anther card and try an older release.
Switching to another format type. The best compatibility for linux is the EXT4, but in that case that HDD will be a bit harder accessible with Windows. Workaround exist, like EXT4 "driver" for Windows, or using Linux on the PC: Dual boot or just a live linux from USB. You probably isn't "walk" with that HDD daily between RPi and PC. I'm using EXFAT for this purpose as it's a "portable format" type and didn't had any serious problem with that.
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So here too I am forced to use something I don't need. You're one of the funny kind. Not use? Like if I can't disable it?
Nobody forced you to use the LibreElec. It's only your choice if you use it or not. Also it's open source, if you don't like something, you are free to make your own version.
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I do not how to install LibreELEC generic in a specific ext4 partition. I do not want to use the hole disk because I have other OSes on it. I use rEFInd as boot manager.
Hi, I think you should think a bit about this. The LibreElec is a minimal Linux OS to be able to run the KODI, intended to be used with devices with limited resources (SBC, mini-PC). So, if you already have a working OS on that PC, why you don't just install the KODI? That would have some advantages, including the far better driver support, simple launching instead of rebooting the PC.
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And hey, here I am again. Yes, it's getting slow. However, I have a few questions. Why can't anyone here integrate a translator? I mean, manually it's a bit tricky because my translator is different and therefore another translator translates in a different way than the one from support or moderator, right???
Do you have any real issue with the LibreElec, or just do you like to write many-many rows...
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What I already done in the meantime is to also try it at my desk monitor (ThinkVision P27q-10). The problem also occurs there regardless of the connection type (tried DisplayPort->HDMI and DisplayPort directly).
Hi, you should try to run some LE versions directly from USB-stick, and check which is working. Also you can do that with some Live-Linux too. Hint: try the Ventoy and just "drop" the "ISO" or "IMG" file to the USB-stick.
Would be weird to have a hardware issue, but I wouldn't exclude that possibility.
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Question is .... what should I look at and where to start?
That issue is known, looks like it's a combination of the weak built-in antenna of the RPi's and probably some bug in the connman or IWD codes. Log files probably should help, but with problematic network isn't easy to make it.
The rock solid solution is to use LAN cable if you can. If not, the second is to use a Wifi-Lan adapter, no needs any driver, it just "translate" the Wifi to LAN cable net. If you have around a Wifi-USB dongle, with a "real size" antenna, you could try it, the question is if the LE have the right driver for it... And if you are already using LE 12.2 version, should try the latest 12.2 nightly. Have included the latest updates.
I have an RPi3B with Wifi connection, modded for external antenna (for this need a very good soldering skill!), latest LE 12.2 nightly, and working fine.
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I have all my stuff on a NAS, so apart from librelec/kodi itself there is not much on the sd either way
For LE installation in that case enough 1-2GB space... a 128GB or bigger SSD isn't a waste for this? The gain? 1-2 seconds of booting time? When comparing with the SSD, I talking about a good SD card like a Samsung EVO Plus or Kingston Canvas Go Plus. To repeat myself: But this is only my point of view...
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As i reconfigure stuff at home i bought a new case for the space to connect a poe/m2 hat in it (main reason was to try the poe part) and as i have a spare nvme i want to install libreelec onto it and remove the existing sd card.
Hi, usually I like to have the "system" and "data" in two different device. And who had trouble with saving/restoring or even loosing huge amount of data after a "problematic" update/upgrade, would agee with me. I would let the OS (LE) in a good and fast SD card, and storing all of media files on that SSD. But this is only my point of view...
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I think another path forward could be git bisecting between 12.0.2 and 12.2.1, although there are ~950 commits between the two tags and I would need to rebuild the image for each bisect step.
Two things you should maybe think about:
1. It's a very big number of users using different RPi versions with LE. If would be a serious bug in LE (connman or IWD) code, here should be a lot of complains about it. But there many people who have working wifi connection. So, if you can't connect at all, maybe the main problem isn't in the LE code.
2. What encryption mode is set on that AP? In the past the RPi wasn't able to handle the WPA3-SAE. I made yesterday a short test because theoretically was improved something in that matter. So, when I tried to connect my RPi3B (latest LE12.2 nightly) to a WPA3-SAE encrypted wifi, ends after some "thinking" time with connection failure. Changed back to WPA2-PSK and LE reboot got connection... I have no time for more test now and I'm fine with WPA2...
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AFAIK that's been fixed (worked-around) in RPi kernel code.
The WPA3 should work with the latest 12.2 nightly (LibreELEC-RPi2.arm-12.2-nightly-20260118-553081d.img.gz) or only with the 13.0? (Sorry for off topic)
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Any other ideas?
Could be the Wifi encryption "thing"? With the RPi was something that doesn't support the WPA3 encryption, maybe here to be the same? Just for test, try to change in the router to the WPA2 and a strong password.
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But I want the device started at boot time and prioritized over the the internal wifi, so i've been trying to increase the open files limit at startup.
Hi, try to add to the config.txt the "dtoverlay=disable-wifi" - that should disable the internal wifi. Also you could increase the "wait for network" time at the System -LibreElec - Network - Maximum wait time.
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Quick update: I have switched to the other adapter (the one with the 'proper' antenna) -- the problem still occurs.
When connected, I see dBm values <50 (which is an improvement), but the connection still drops frequently and is really unreliable.
Hi, that could be because of the "unstable" wifi source. Maybe one of your neighbor use the same wifi channel, you did a channel analysis to see the interferences? The possible existent connman-iwd issue I think appear at reconnecting. But even without the "reconnection issue", an unstable network and continuous streaming isn't the best option. I'm just wondering... that part of the stable/unstable wifi network could be the reason that only a few users reported this issue...
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However, I think that there still is some software/driver issue going on as I remember the dongle working without issues when I used it under Raspbian 10+ years ago. Also from reading this forum, the Invalid Key errors started appearing with the switch from wpa_supplicant to iwd.
Probably is there a software issue (iwd or connman?) too, but probably it's more intense with a weak and unstable signal. I have a RPi3B with wifi connection (and other two with cable). I had a very same wifi issue when tried with the built-in wifi. I managed to make the modification on the RPi to be able to connect an external antenna. After that I didn't had problem with the wifi. Everything remains the same, the only thing was changed, the tiny RPi's antenna was replaced with a "real" one. Try it with the EW-7612UAn, with the better antenna (and if the LE have the driver for it), could be enough... Another thing that could help a bit, if you didn't tried yet, try to check the usage of the wifi channels. Usually the routers have option for channel analyzis (or with a phone and wifi analyzer app), and try set for your wifi to a free channel, to not interfere with other sources.
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I've also seen various mentions about this issue being related to poor reception (with the suggestion to use a USB dongle - which I already do) and that moving the WiFi client closer to the access point helped.
The "suggestion to use a USB dongle" was for one with a "normal size" wifi antenna, and not for a "cherry seed size" dongle like the Edimax EW-7811Un is. The "microscopic" antenna could explain the wifi instability like in your case: "sometimes suddenly no WiFi networks are found and 5-10m later everything is back to normal". If you want better and stable wifi you should try something with a better antenna (with the classic 10 cm long antenna). Or if have a possibility, use lan cable and you will forget the all network issues.
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File transfer doesn't work with PuTTY, if you want to transfer files over SSH, you need WinSCP.
Or use the "MobaXterm", can do both, SSH terminal and file transfer at the same time.
Sorry for off topic...
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I'll open the case and see.. I avoided it while thinking that the multitool was compatible only with those chips.
Next if ok, i'll try LibreELEC-RK3328.aarch64-12.90.1-a1.img.gz
Why don't do it in reverse order?
Try the LibreELEC-RK3328... image and if isn't working open the case?
If a heatsink is glued to the CPU, sometimes isn't a simple task to remove it without the risk to be damaged something... and will need to be glued back too... with a heat resistent glue...
